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Bug 172818
Opened 22 years ago
Updated 2 years ago
Allow movement of toolbars (using visible grippies)
Categories
(Toolkit :: Toolbars and Toolbar Customization, enhancement)
Toolkit
Toolbars and Toolbar Customization
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(Reporter: djst, Unassigned)
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(Blocks 2 open bugs)
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This is related to bug 171702, which is about enabling toolbar placement at the right side of the menu bar. This RFE is about making the whole toolbars movable. When the toolbar customization dialog is visible, there should also be a visible toolbar grippie at the left of each toolbar, including the menu. This would allow you to easily move around the toolbars and combine toolbars on one row. It is already possible to combine toolbars on one row, but that requires moving the individual buttons. This would be a way to move the toolbars as a whole. In order to make this really useful, the menu must also become a toolbar. I do NOT mean that the menu bar would be customizable, but it should be placed on a separate toolbar container, to allow moving it and placing other toolbars on each side of it. The visual toolbar grippie I mentioned could also be displayed while not customizing the toolbars (to allow moving the toolbars all the time, like IE does it when the toolbars are not locked), but I leave that decision to the developers. Just to clarify: This is NOT a request for dockable/undockable toolbars and this is NOT a request for moving the individual menu elements or customizing the menu.
Comment 2•22 years ago
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If/when this is implemented in Phoenix, please allow ths toolbars to be locked, thereby removing the "grippies" from the toolbars. IE 6 does this with a "Lock the Toolbars" menu option which removes the grips from the toolbars and locks them in place. This would help reduce the probability of accidental rearrangement of the toolbars, something that seems to cause new users a great deal of stress. In particular, I work with developmentally challenged adults who get very frustrated when toolbars can't be found because the previous suer had managed to move them into unfamiliar locations.
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Comment 3•22 years ago
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That could be avoided by only displaying the visual grippies when the Customize Toolbar dialog was visible, and thus only allowing movement then. I really think the target milestone for this should be before 1.0. This would really increase the usability of the toolbar customization.
Comment 4•22 years ago
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I have a HTML/CSS/DOM implementation of this working (IE style coolbars). Maybe I should port this to XUL?
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Comment 5•22 years ago
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Erik, are you saying that you can make a patch for this?
Comment 6•22 years ago
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No, There is currently a bug (#178519) in Mozilla which prevents this from working satisfactory. Once that is fixed it should be possible to change my components from XHTML/CSS to XUL/CSS and then I might be able to produce a patch.
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Comment 7•21 years ago
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*** Bug 196540 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 8•21 years ago
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Seems that #178519 is fixed. What about moveable toolbars now? Are you still there for patching it Erik?
Comment 9•21 years ago
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Even though bug #178519 is fixed I still have the problem that #178519 should have fixed for my prototype of the tool bars. Maybe I should post the prototype here and then someone else might figure out why the mouse events do not work. Once the mouse events do work some serious work is needed to translate the HTML/DOM/ECMAScript prototype into commercial quality XUL/XBL code.
Comment 10•21 years ago
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*** Bug 213674 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 12•21 years ago
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Erik, can you attach your code here, please, so that interested folks (like me ;-) ) can have a look at/into it at least?
Comment 13•21 years ago
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By request of kd-moz@tprac.de I'm posting what I've got. Note that this is a very (VERY) rough DHTML version. There are several bugs but if anyone wants to base a XUL/XBL implementation of this I'd be glad to help out in any way possible.
Comment 14•21 years ago
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Would resolving this "bug" mean that one can move toolbars that currently on the top to the bottom and vice-versa? Or are the grippies only for movement along their current (top/ bottom) positions? Just clarifying ...
Comment 15•21 years ago
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*** Bug 214650 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 16•21 years ago
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It is possible to move buttons freely and add new toolbars, so this bug seems obsolete to me. Even if it is a little bit longer to move toolbars in this way, it is possible to do it.
Comment 17•21 years ago
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Regarding comment #16 from Erwan Loisant: I think the average end-user would rather have 'visible grippies' where they could drag the toolbars where-ever they wish. Why send the user through another right-click option menu? Dragging is a lot easier / obvious. Also, I agree with comment #2 here by Jackson Fox. Locking of toolbars is something that I feel would be necessary to prevent accidental movement.
Comment 18•21 years ago
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I would really like to see this feature added.
Comment 19•21 years ago
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Erik, bug #178519 is fixed, what now?
Comment 20•21 years ago
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I have no plan of continuing this at the moment (or any time soon). Like I said before: "Note that this is a very (VERY) rough DHTML version. There are several bugs but if anyone wants to base a XUL/XBL implementation of this I'd be glad to help out in any way possible."
Comment 21•20 years ago
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*** Bug 248350 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Updated•20 years ago
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Flags: blocking-aviary1.0?
Comment 22•20 years ago
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if a patch appears, maybe, but I doubt it'd be low-risk enough at this point. We're not going to block on this.
Flags: blocking-aviary1.0? → blocking-aviary1.0-
Comment 23•20 years ago
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This extension, Firefox Toolbar, has a bit of a toolbar. Not like IE's but maybe it's a start to an end? http://www.firefoxtoolbar.com/ See the photo right at the top! Toolbars would eb useful for the bookmarks toolbar. Since not all of us keep it on a third toolbar but put it together on another, being able to decide it's width would be nice. (just another argument for visible grippies, not for a new extension ^_^)
Comment 24•20 years ago
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(In reply to comment #23) > This extension, Firefox Toolbar, has a bit of a toolbar. Not like IE's but > maybe it's a start to an end? > > http://www.firefoxtoolbar.com/ See the photo right at the top! > I do not see how this is relevant here. This bug is about the ability to move all the toolbars of FF around ... e.g. put them side by side or change their order of appearance. The extension you cite here is just another extension that *adds* such a toolbar but does not implement any of the features requested here.
Comment 25•20 years ago
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(In reply to comment #24) > (In reply to comment #23) > > This extension, Firefox Toolbar, has a bit of a toolbar. Not like IE's but > > maybe it's a start to an end? > > > > http://www.firefoxtoolbar.com/ See the photo right at the top! > > > I do not see how this is relevant here. This bug is about the ability to move > all the toolbars of FF around ... e.g. put them side by side or change their > order of appearance. The extension you cite here is just another extension that > *adds* such a toolbar but does not implement any of the features requested here. Like I said I thought someone could improve on it
Comment 26•20 years ago
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*** Bug 264545 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 27•20 years ago
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*** Bug 264510 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Updated•20 years ago
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Assignee: hyatt → bugs
Comment 28•20 years ago
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I would also like to see this fix implemented. I had been reluctant to move to Firefox because I didn't know it had extensions for the Google and Yahoo toolbar, which I use all the time. I was pretty psyched to join the Firefox club at that point. In that other browser, I could park the toolbars on the same row and only have two bars taking up real estate. The current functionality does not let you move buttons from toolbar extensions, so I am stuck with a lot of unused grey toolbar space eating into my screen...
Comment 29•19 years ago
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(In reply to comment #28) > I would also like to see this fix implemented. I had been reluctant to move to > Firefox because I didn't know it had extensions for the Google and Yahoo > toolbar, which I use all the time. I was pretty psyched to join the Firefox club > at that point. In that other browser, I could park the toolbars on the same row > and only have two bars taking up real estate. > The current functionality does not let you move buttons from toolbar extensions, > so I am stuck with a lot of unused grey toolbar space eating into my screen... Ditto. I think this will be a big usability improvement with even more increase in appeal. Saves a lot of screen real-estate when Google and yahoo can be on same row
Updated•19 years ago
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Component: Toolbars → Toolbars and Toolbar Customization
Flags: blocking-aviary1.0-
Product: Firefox → Toolkit
Target Milestone: Future → ---
Comment 30•19 years ago
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http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=1356728#1356728 combining extension toolbars into 2 rows I have 2 extension toolbars, the autoform and the curency converter which i wanted to combine into one row. it doesn't seem possible to do this with your method of customize toolbars, as these are extension toolbars. of course your method works for the basics, no problem, but the add ons pile on vertically when then can be more efficiently arranged to take up less space on a 15.4 inch screen. If anyone knows how to line up the toolbars horizontally, as modules, like in MS word, next to each other in one row, kindly inform otherwise I'd like to see this in an update. thanks.
Comment 31•19 years ago
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yes would like to see this in Firefox, the same way it is used in IE
Updated•19 years ago
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Assignee: bugs → nobody
QA Contact: bugzilla → nobody
Comment 32•19 years ago
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This is an XBL implementation I wrote in June. It isn't in usable state yet, but I'm putting it here because it doesn't look like I'll be working on it anytime soon. (In order to be usable, this needs [at least] a few bugfixes in my code, chevron implementation, bug 309914 to be fixed, and more.) Attached is a ZIP file, which can be extracted to extensions/ folder in Firefox 1.5 or later for testing.
Comment 33•19 years ago
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*** Bug 317532 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 34•18 years ago
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*** Bug 332620 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
See also bug 15322.
Comment 36•18 years ago
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Working extension here!: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/3571/ It works similar to IE using an lock/unlock toolbars menuitem, and when unlocked, visible grippies appear and you can reorder the toolbars by drag and drop.
Updated•15 years ago
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QA Contact: nobody → toolbars
Comment 38•14 years ago
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https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=562702 is a duplicate of this.
Comment 40•13 years ago
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bug 474590 is a dupe of this. Also http://enndeakin.wordpress.com/2011/03/02/fun-with-toolbars/ it would appear this is being worked on.
Comment 42•13 years ago
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Since 4.0 the Bookmark bar is invisible, if an App-Tab, e.g. Add-on Manager, is in view. I like the Bookmark bar to be moved on top of the Tab bar, so it is visible/usable all the time.
Comment 43•13 years ago
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(In reply to comment #42) > Since 4.0 the Bookmark bar is invisible, if an App-Tab, e.g. Add-on Manager, > is in view. > I like the Bookmark bar to be moved on top of the Tab bar, so it is > visible/usable all the time. Mozdevs don't give a **** about what you want. As a plain user, just like you - I also want the same thing you described. So I wrote this userstyle, which you can either put to userCrhome.css file in your profile's folder (if there is no such a file - create it), or use Stylish addon for that. /* Show bookmark panel when Аdd-Оns Мanager is opened */ #main-window[disablechrome] #navigator-toolbox[tabsontop="true"] > toolbar:not(#toolbar-menubar):not(#TabsToolbar):not([collapsed="true"]) { visibility: visible !important; } /* Set toolbars order */ #PersonalToolbar { -moz-box-ordinal-group: 8 !important; }
Updated•2 years ago
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Severity: normal → S3
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