Closed
Bug 22846
Opened 25 years ago
Closed 23 years ago
[RFE] web-based archive of posts to mozilla.* newsgroups
Categories
(mozilla.org Graveyard :: Server Operations, task, P5)
Tracking
(Not tracked)
RESOLVED
WONTFIX
People
(Reporter: gwalla, Unassigned)
References
Details
(Whiteboard: AOL_IC_wontfix)
It would be enormously helpful if mozilla.org provided an archive of past messages on the mozilla.* newsgroup hierarchy. USENET is not an archival system, so you can't tell when a message will be deleted from the server. Having them on the web would allow people to link to messages as references without the link breaking because the netnews server purged the message.
Updated•25 years ago
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Assignee: mitchell → dmose
Comment 1•25 years ago
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reassigning to dmose, who has background on mozilla newsgroups.
Comment 2•25 years ago
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There are several answers to this. a) we feed deja.com directly so that such an archive does exist b) news.mozilla.org has not yet expired any articles from the mozilla hierarchy. I wouldn't be surprised if we had to do this in the not-too-distant future. c) at some point, we hope to migrate to another mailing-list manager which has web features, possibly SYMPA. when that happens, it would be easy to set such a thing up. Because of item c), I'm reassigning this bug to rko.
Assignee: dmose → rko
Component: Miscellaneous → Server Operations
Updated•25 years ago
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Status: NEW → ASSIGNED
Comment 3•25 years ago
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www.deja.com is a good news archive; I don't see why we should try to invent the wheel again.
Status: ASSIGNED → RESOLVED
Closed: 25 years ago
Resolution: --- → WONTFIX
Comment 4•24 years ago
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> www.deja.com is a good news archive; I don't see why we should try to invent > the wheel again. <http://salon.com/tech/log/2000/06/20/deja/> That's why. Who wants a bet that Deja will never get around to putting its archive back up before it goes bankrupt? Reopening.
Status: RESOLVED → REOPENED
Resolution: WONTFIX → ---
Comment 5•24 years ago
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It's totally up to the newsgroup administrators to implement something like this. Development support team don't have resources for this. Moving this to Marya's queue who is one of our "core services" team member and knows more about USENET servers.
Assignee: rko → maryag
Status: REOPENED → NEW
Comment 6•24 years ago
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I don't have access to news.mozilla.org either. A HTML gateway would be useful, but I would prefer bug 31514 to be fixed. [slightly OT] > would allow people to link to messages as references Personally, I prefer links to news.mozilla.org (e.g. <news://news.mozilla.org/myid>). I can copy and edit them to access the snews serevr and have the full thread in my known environment and don't have to figure out how to use the webmail app and post using textareas.
Comment 7•24 years ago
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[OT]
> I wouldn't be surprised if we had to do this in the not-too-distant future.
No, please don't. Never.
Comment 8•24 years ago
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It looks like Deja has gotten some part of it's archive back up, I just did a search & found posts of mine from about a year ago. But one thing we're hoping to do in the future is upgrade our mailing list software to one that supports LDAP (possibly SYMPA). And hopefully whatever software we choose will support mailing-list archives. So with luck, we'll be able to actually do reasonable HTML archiving from the mailing list side of the house in the future. Marya, if you don't want this bug, feel free to reassign it to me.
Comment 9•24 years ago
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Thanks Dan. I just got back from a vacation and am still catching up. If you don't mind taking care of this, that would be great. passing ticket back to dmose. thanks, marya
Assignee: maryag → dmose
Updated•24 years ago
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Status: NEW → ASSIGNED
Comment 10•24 years ago
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reassigning to dmose's proper account
Assignee: dmose → dmose
Status: ASSIGNED → NEW
Comment 11•24 years ago
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Mass reassign of mozilla.org infrastructure bugs, as I'm switching groups to work on LDAP integration in Mozilla full-time.
Assignee: dmose → endico
Comment 13•24 years ago
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upping the priority and severity of this because deja.com has notified us that they have discontinued our news feed, the site is down and we no longer have a searchable archive for our newsgroups. Assigning to nobody so it will show up on the proper radars along with the rest of our dangling IS tasks.
Assignee: endico → nobody
Severity: enhancement → critical
Priority: P3 → P5
Comment 14•24 years ago
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Note that the lack of an archive breaks newsbot. Newsbot presently links to articles at deja.com. http://mozilla.org/newsbot/ whatever archiving software we use needs to allow lookup by message-id newsbot can link to a particular mail message like this http://www.deja.com/[LB=http://www.mozilla.org/]/msgid.xp?MID=<3A7A22F3.9040102@netscape.com> and viewing threads like this: http://www.deja.com/[LB=http://www.mozilla.org/]/thread/%3c3A7A22F3.9040102@netscape.com%3e%231/1
Comment 15•24 years ago
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http://www.mail-archive.com/
Comment 16•24 years ago
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> whatever archiving software we use needs to allow lookup by message-id
> newsbot can link to a particular mail message like this
> and viewing threads like this:
Didn't see that. I don't think, the Mail Archive can do that yet, but you may be
able to talk to the maintainer (seems to be an open-source guy).
Updated•23 years ago
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Whiteboard: AOL_IC_wontfix
Comment 17•23 years ago
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Google bought deja's news service. I'd not spin up this service ourselves and rely on Google.
Severity: critical → enhancement
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 25 years ago → 23 years ago
Resolution: --- → WONTFIX
Comment 18•23 years ago
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> we no longer have a searchable archive for our newsgroups
The mozilla.org news server archives everything from day one. (That's how it
*must* be.) You can search a new server, not?
Comment 19•23 years ago
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Risto: Note that Google did *not* yet made the deja archive available. Posts date back only to Aug 2000, when Google started to archive itself.
Updated•22 years ago
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Assignee | ||
Updated•9 years ago
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Product: mozilla.org → mozilla.org Graveyard
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