Closed
Bug 243633
Opened 20 years ago
Closed 20 years ago
nachtzugreise.de/nachtzugreisen.de - Bad example: Booking process won't start (higher browser version required)
Categories
(Tech Evangelism Graveyard :: German, defect)
Tech Evangelism Graveyard
German
Tracking
(Not tracked)
RESOLVED
FIXED
People
(Reporter: eduardosoriajimenez, Unassigned)
References
()
Details
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 It says i need a higher version, IE won´t do either although i have IE 6. Für den Buchungsvorgang benötigen Sie eine neuere Browserversion (Internet Explorer 4.x und neuere / Netscape 4.x und neuer) Sie können sich kostenfrei Updates unter den folgenden Links downloaden: Internet Explorer Upgrade Netscape Upgrade Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. 2. 3.
Comment 1•20 years ago
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If it doesn't work in any browser, then how is it a Mozilla bug? What's the bug? It seems to me that the site would be just flat broken, if that's the case.
Comment 2•20 years ago
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I had some fun with the Javascript console, see a selection of messages: Warning: useless expression Source File: http://www.nachtzugreise.de/DBautozug/_includes/scripts.js Line: 163 void(null); Client detection is looking for IE4, NS4, NS5, NS6: Warning: reference to undefined property document.layers Source File: http://www.nachtzugreise.de/DBautozug/_includes/scripts.js Line: 90 Warning: reference to undefined property plugin.SetWindow Source File: javascript: function jsScriptObject(obj) { this.wrappedJSObject = obj; } jsScriptObject.prototype = { evaluate : function(expression) { return new jsScriptObject(eval(expression)); } }; var plugin = document.embeds['nav_flash_home']; plugin.SetWindow(new jsScriptObject(window),1147723150); Line: 1 Error: plugin.SetWindow is not a function Source File: javascript: function jsScriptObject(obj) { this.wrappedJSObject = obj; } jsScriptObject.prototype = { evaluate : function(expression) { return new jsScriptObject(eval(expression)); } }; var plugin = document.embeds['nav_flash_home']; plugin.SetWindow(new jsScriptObject(window),1147723150); Line: 1 Error: body_onload is not defined Warning: reference to undefined property document.embeds.nav_flash_home Source File: javascript: function jsScriptObject(obj) { this.wrappedJSObject = obj; } jsScriptObject.prototype = { evaluate : function(expression) { return new jsScriptObject(eval(expression)); } }; var plugin = document.embeds['nav_flash_home']; plugin.SetWindow(new jsScriptObject(window),1147723150); Line: 1 Error: plugin has no properties Source File: javascript: function jsScriptObject(obj) { this.wrappedJSObject = obj; } jsScriptObject.prototype = { evaluate : function(expression) { return new jsScriptObject(eval(expression)); } }; var plugin = document.embeds['nav_flash_home']; plugin.SetWindow(new jsScriptObject(window),1147723150); Line: 1
First of all, I think this is Tech-Evang/German. The site uses browser sniffing and identifies only Netscape and IE. Interesting is, if I first visit the main index page at http://www.nachtzugreise.de/ it works with MSIE and NS 7.1 (or a masked Mozilla as NS 7.1). The page redirects at the end to the reporter's URL. The booking works and no asking for upgrading. STRANGE. Web sniffer reveals for the main URL http://web-sniffer.net/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nachtzugreise.de%2F&submit=Submit&gzip=yes&type=GET if you have JS, Cookies on and use Netscape (result for IE is the same) you will open then http://web-sniffer.net/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nachtzugreise.de%2Fautozug%2Findex.asp%3FJ%3DY%26C%3DY%26DA%3DN&submit=Submit&gzip=yes&type=GET which leads to a Http 302 and the reporter's URL. I don't know why it works only (for NS 7.1/IE) if you access the site through the index page.
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Comment 4•20 years ago
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hi, >The site uses browser sniffing and identifies only Netscape and IE. Interesting >is, if I first visit the main index page at http://www.nachtzugreise.de/ it >works with MSIE and NS 7.1 (or a masked Mozilla as NS 7.1). The page redirects >at the end to the reporter's URL. The booking works and no asking for upgrading. >STRANGE. going through the index site doesn´t work for me. i use mozilla 1.6. what do i have to do to mask mozilla as NS 7.1? thanks in advance >From: bugzilla-daemon@mozilla.org >To: eduardosoriajimenez@hotmail.com >Subject: [Bug 243633] Bad example: Booking process won´t start (higher browser version required) >Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 08:19:28 -0700 > >http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=243633 > > > > > >------- Additional Comments From ostgote@gmx.net 2004-05-19 08:19 PDT ------- >First of all, I think this is Tech-Evang/German. > >The site uses browser sniffing and identifies only Netscape and IE. Interesting >is, if I first visit the main index page at http://www.nachtzugreise.de/ it >works with MSIE and NS 7.1 (or a masked Mozilla as NS 7.1). The page redirects >at the end to the reporter's URL. The booking works and no asking for upgrading. >STRANGE. > >Web sniffer reveals > >for the main URL >http://web-sniffer.net/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nachtzugreise.de%2F&submit=Submit&gzip=yes&type=GET > >if you have JS, Cookies on and use Netscape (result for IE is the same) you will >open then >http://web-sniffer.net/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nachtzugreise.de%2Fautozug%2Findex.asp%3FJ%3DY%26C%3DY%26DA%3DN&submit=Submit&gzip=yes&type=GET >which leads to a Http 302 and the reporter's URL. > >I don't know why it works only (for NS 7.1/IE) if you access the site through >the index page. > > >-- >Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email
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Comment 5•20 years ago
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hi, >The site uses browser sniffing and identifies only Netscape and IE. Interesting >is, if I first visit the main index page at http://www.nachtzugreise.de/ it >works with MSIE and NS 7.1 (or a masked Mozilla as NS 7.1). The page redirects >at the end to the reporter's URL. The booking works and no asking for upgrading. >STRANGE. going through the index site doesn´t work for me. i use mozilla 1.6. what do i have to do to mask mozilla as NS 7.1? thanks in advance >From: bugzilla-daemon@mozilla.org >To: eduardosoriajimenez@hotmail.com >Subject: [Bug 243633] Bad example: Booking process won´t start (higher browser version required) >Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 08:19:28 -0700 > >http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=243633 > > > > > >------- Additional Comments From ostgote@gmx.net 2004-05-19 08:19 PDT ------- >First of all, I think this is Tech-Evang/German. > >The site uses browser sniffing and identifies only Netscape and IE. Interesting >is, if I first visit the main index page at http://www.nachtzugreise.de/ it >works with MSIE and NS 7.1 (or a masked Mozilla as NS 7.1). The page redirects >at the end to the reporter's URL. The booking works and no asking for upgrading. >STRANGE. > >Web sniffer reveals > >for the main URL >http://web-sniffer.net/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nachtzugreise.de%2F&submit=Submit&gzip=yes&type=GET > >if you have JS, Cookies on and use Netscape (result for IE is the same) you will >open then >http://web-sniffer.net/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nachtzugreise.de%2Fautozug%2Findex.asp%3FJ%3DY%26C%3DY%26DA%3DN&submit=Submit&gzip=yes&type=GET >which leads to a Http 302 and the reporter's URL. > >I don't know why it works only (for NS 7.1/IE) if you access the site through >the index page. > > >-- >Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email
Please change the Product/Component of this bug to Tech-Evang/German. (In reply to comment #5) > going through the index site doesn´t work for me. i use mozilla 1.6. what do i > have to do to mask mozilla as NS 7.1? > thanks in advance Open about:config and change/add the following prefs: general.useragent.vendor to Netscape general.useragent.vendorSub to 7.1 Both are string prefs.
Reporter, PLEASE change the Product/Component of this bug to Tech-Evang/German and include the site's name in the summary (nachtzugreise.de). contacts: http://www.nachtzugreise.de/DBautozug/kontakt.html http://www.nachtzugreise.de/DBautozug/impressum.html I wrote the webmaster about this bug through the web contact form.
I got an answer from the customer support. ---- original answer (German): Sehr geehrter Herr xxx, vielen Dank für Ihren Hinweis. Die Online-Buchung bei www.nachtzugreise.de ist ein Modul welches ursprünglich mit speziell auf Netscape und Internet Explorer optimierten Methoden implementiert wurde. Es sind in diesem Teil komplexe JavaScript-Elemente verwendet worden, die beispielsweise unter Mozilla unerwünschte Effekte hervorrufen. Daher war es nötig nur Browser zuzulassen, die 100%ig funktionieren. Der Grund für die Verwendung dieser Funktionalitäten ist, dass es zunächst nur auf diesem Wege möglich war, einen Buchungsprozess zu schaffen, der den Kunden möglichst komfortabel führt. Uns ist bewusst, dass Browser-Restriktionen jeglicher Art problematisch und unbefriedigend sind und schalten diese, soweit es mit vertretbarem Aufwand möglich ist, schnellstmöglich ab. Mit freundlichen Grüßen T. R. DB AutoZug GmbH -------------- roughly translation: We know it, it is because of some of the used JS (optimized for IE and NS) has lead to problems with Mozilla. Only so we can guarantee a convenient booking process. We know such a restriction is problematic, but we will see if we can drop it soon (if the work is justifiable).
I got a second answer from the support. They announce the support of Mozilla/Firefox! I tested it with FF 0.9 and Mozilla 1.7, it works! So someone (Reporter, someone with permissions) could do: - change the Product/Component of this bug to Tech-Evang/German - include the site's name in the summary (nachtzugreise.de) - resolve the bug as fixed Thanks.
Assignee: general → german
Component: Browser-General → German
OS: Windows 2000 → All
Product: Browser → Tech Evangelism
QA Contact: general → german
Hardware: PC → All
Summary: Bad example: Booking process won´t start (higher browser version required) → nachtzugreise.de - Bad example: Booking process won´t start (higher browser version required)
Version: Trunk → unspecified
Comment 10•20 years ago
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Tested with Mozilla 1.8a5 and FF 0.12/1.0rc2. It works now as I said. Resolving.
Status: UNCONFIRMED → RESOLVED
Closed: 20 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED
Summary: nachtzugreise.de - Bad example: Booking process won´t start (higher browser version required) → nachtzugreise.de/nachtzugreisen.de - Bad example: Booking process won't start (higher browser version required)
Updated•9 years ago
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Product: Tech Evangelism → Tech Evangelism Graveyard
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