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(In reply to Richard Marti (:Paenglab) from comment #6)
> Comment on attachment 9145400 [details]
> Screenshot 3: Proposal (:hover): same like From selector on hover
> 
> I'm against this because the menulist looks then like a text input field. It
> should be darker on hover like the other format buttons.

OK, I hear you... not a big issue... but...
- Why should it look and behave like a button when it's not a button?
- I'd argue that it actually *is* a crippled text input, you can even type a first character and it will pick a matching entry. The end result is text input, only we're forcing users to select from list of texts.
- Please look at Firefox: about:preferences > Zoom selector. Blue focus border on active dropdown box because focus indicates where keyboard input will go. Blue focus border does help a lot to identify that tiny spot on my large screen where the actual change is happening.
- Btw, is there any reason why the font selector does *not* accept typed text input? Typing a known font name and getting autocomplete can be much more efficient than choosing from long lists.
- I don't know, I can't get used to focused spots turning darker. To me, dark-grey is the color of "disabled", and I'd expect the focus point to be under "spotlight", so that's *lighter*.
- Black text on white background simply has the best contrast, it's much harder to read black on grey.

(In reply to Richard Marti (:Paenglab) from comment #7)
> Comment on attachment 9145401 [details]
> Screenshot 4: Proposal (focused): Same like From-selector when focused
> 
> Again, it should look like the other format buttons.
> 
> Btw. how can you focus this menulists and the other format buttons?

With keyboard? You can't. Need to go through main menus.
There's two solutions I could think of for primary UI:
- Single tab focus stop on first item of a toolbar, the rest you navigate with cursor.
- Have some sort of hotkey which activates extended / detailed focus ring where everything on screen becomes accessible, probably still using only a single tab stop on the toolbar, the rest with cursor.

(In reply to Richard Marti (:Paenglab) from comment #6)
> Comment on attachment 9145400 [details]
> Screenshot 3: Proposal (:hover): same like From selector on hover
> 
> I'm against this because the menulist looks then like a text input field. It
> should be darker on hover like the other format buttons.

OK, I hear you... not a big issue... but...
- Why should it look and behave like a button when it's not a button?
- I'd argue that it actually *is* a crippled text input, you can even type a first character and it will pick a matching entry. The end result is text input, only we're forcing users to select from list of texts.
- Please look at Firefox: about:preferences > Zoom selector. Blue focus border on active dropdown box because focus indicates where keyboard input will go. Blue focus border does help a lot to identify that tiny spot on my large screen where the actual change is happening.
- Btw, is there any reason why the font selector does *not* accept typed text input? Typing a known font name and getting autocomplete can be much more efficient than choosing from long lists.
- I don't know, I can't get used to focused spots turning darker. To me, dark-grey is the color of "disabled", and I'd expect the focus point to be under "spotlight", so that's *lighter*.
- Black text on white background simply has the best contrast, it's much harder to read black on grey.

(In reply to Richard Marti (:Paenglab) from comment #7)
> Comment on attachment 9145401 [details]
> Screenshot 4: Proposal (focused): Same like From-selector when focused
> 
> Again, it should look like the other format buttons.
> 
> Btw. how can you focus this menulists and the other format buttons?

With keyboard? You can't. Need to go through main menus.
There's two solutions I could think of for primary UI:
- Single tab focus stop in normal focus ring on first item of a toolbar, the rest you navigate with cursor. Extra stop might be annoying when you just want to go from subject to body.
- Have some sort of hotkey which activates extended / detailed focus ring where everything on screen becomes accessible, probably still using only a single tab stop on the toolbar, the rest with cursor.