Bug 1756236 Comment 10 Edit History

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Meanwhile nothing real happened here for four years, freshly upgraded org.mozilla.firefox refuses to start on my openSUSE/MicroOS.

```
mitmanek:~ $ flatpak run org.mozilla.firefox 
[2] Sandbox: CanCreateUserNamespace() clone() failure: EPERM
mitmanek:~ $ LANG=en_GB flatpak info org.mozilla.firefox 

Firefox - Fast, Private & Safe Web Browser

          ID: org.mozilla.firefox
         Ref: app/org.mozilla.firefox/x86_64/stable
        Arch: x86_64
      Branch: stable
     Version: 144.0
     License: MPL-2.0
      Origin: flathub
  Collection: org.flathub.Stable
Installation: user
   Installed: 300.8 MB
     Runtime: org.freedesktop.Platform/x86_64/24.08
         Sdk: org.freedesktop.Sdk/x86_64/24.08

      Commit: 16c8616b99af926c91734bd73ea6a2644965d02b6336ebdf11dd952dea097865
      Parent: 83102f67e8674a8a3d4c4134c9bbda695a0bbede915957a6a99eceeb00e82953
     Subject: Export org.mozilla.firefox
        Date: 2025-10-14 12:33:10 +0000
mitmanek:~ $ 
```

It seems that some firefox processes are running, but nothing visible shows up:

```
mitmanek:~ $ pgrep -f -a firefox/browser
55808 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -ipcHandle 0 -signalPipe 1 -initialChannelId {0f22ef83-d93c-4226-b919-7731995047eb} -parentPid 2 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 1 forkserver
55811 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -prefsHandle 0:47851 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -sandboxReporter 2 -ipcHandle 3 -initialChannelId {2935a0e0-06e3-4a2a-a36a-952f07a77251} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 4 -crashHelper 5 -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 2 socket
55863 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:47920 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {00478a7c-954c-4a63-a6cb-e70f5f327687} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 3 tab
55873 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -prefsHandle 0:47920 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -sandboxReporter 2 -ipcHandle 3 -initialChannelId {bb029721-5977-4705-ad78-2ea3538b7e9e} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 4 -crashHelper 5 -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 4 rdd
55919 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:37688 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {a4583c21-4229-438a-8c96-2113c1143f57} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 5 tab
55926 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:37688 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {d2063438-6326-4644-868c-5381bf163cac} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 6 tab
55941 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:37688 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {5fe4ffb1-09a8-46b0-abff-90bb741e7037} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 7 tab
55955 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:37688 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {61e30359-82d5-468e-92b5-48611c9a8d3a} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 8 tab
55988 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:37688 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {4c19e004-b616-4be6-bb23-f25d20dfcb04} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 9 tab
56198 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:58404 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {a0c25ada-e715-4ac2-8a8e-2cbc33dd20a6} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 10 tab
56292 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxingKind 0 -prefsHandle 0:58449 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -sandboxReporter 2 -ipcHandle 3 -initialChannelId {175792b6-42f4-44a0-8e7a-bc9773876645} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 4 -crashHelper 5 -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 11 utility
100226 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:48635 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {f7599b59-bedd-42c6-8097-c1feb1e4bfdc} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 36 tab
162032 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:48636 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {8b33dc5f-45e9-4c0d-a8a5-b87e30c9de8c} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 117 tab
178967 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:48634 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {b6ce5ce3-809a-437b-b32c-73c5f4f5ee59} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 133 tab
200993 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:48634 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {a45cd2c2-d022-4786-85a8-f5020bd6d952} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 145 tab
206108 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:48634 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {c7366869-2bbb-4e54-ab76-22e85e04db11} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 146 tab
206963 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:48635 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {77b15f02-fc53-46a3-8e48-e330bfda72ca} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 147 tab
211266 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:48635 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {a672d093-9393-4ebc-a7f6-a20f4e5b98f3} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 155 tab
212024 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:48635 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {553f6230-f592-4cef-ad53-dc28b988a149} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 157 tab
213046 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:48635 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {5b33d697-ed7e-4bdb-8a74-24ae3814066e} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 158 tab
213426 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:48635 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {0e35aae6-387c-480e-81b3-29da4a1e4bb4} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 159 tab
213786 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:48635 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {e8d4ed31-71b0-47da-88c8-d7f3ec3b5b0d} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 160 tab
1160324 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:48635 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {59da159d-3656-4770-8fab-a7cff3608268} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 625 tab
1165181 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:48635 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {4ea23ea2-bbff-4cc2-a32b-f4fb7bb7ee9f} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 626 tab
1170103 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:48635 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {b99dcd74-38db-47c8-b20b-8e7df943834d} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 627 tab
mitmanek:~ $ 
```
Meanwhile nothing real happened here for four years, freshly upgraded org.mozilla.firefox refuses to start on my openSUSE/MicroOS (needless to add that flatpaked Firefox was working for me until yesterday).

```
mitmanek:~ $ flatpak run org.mozilla.firefox 
[2] Sandbox: CanCreateUserNamespace() clone() failure: EPERM
mitmanek:~ $ LANG=en_GB flatpak info org.mozilla.firefox 

Firefox - Fast, Private & Safe Web Browser

          ID: org.mozilla.firefox
         Ref: app/org.mozilla.firefox/x86_64/stable
        Arch: x86_64
      Branch: stable
     Version: 144.0
     License: MPL-2.0
      Origin: flathub
  Collection: org.flathub.Stable
Installation: user
   Installed: 300.8 MB
     Runtime: org.freedesktop.Platform/x86_64/24.08
         Sdk: org.freedesktop.Sdk/x86_64/24.08

      Commit: 16c8616b99af926c91734bd73ea6a2644965d02b6336ebdf11dd952dea097865
      Parent: 83102f67e8674a8a3d4c4134c9bbda695a0bbede915957a6a99eceeb00e82953
     Subject: Export org.mozilla.firefox
        Date: 2025-10-14 12:33:10 +0000
mitmanek:~ $ 
```

It seems that some firefox processes are running, but nothing visible shows up:

```
mitmanek:~ $ pgrep -f -a firefox/browser
55808 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -ipcHandle 0 -signalPipe 1 -initialChannelId {0f22ef83-d93c-4226-b919-7731995047eb} -parentPid 2 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 1 forkserver
55811 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -prefsHandle 0:47851 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -sandboxReporter 2 -ipcHandle 3 -initialChannelId {2935a0e0-06e3-4a2a-a36a-952f07a77251} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 4 -crashHelper 5 -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 2 socket
55863 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:47920 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {00478a7c-954c-4a63-a6cb-e70f5f327687} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 3 tab
55873 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -prefsHandle 0:47920 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -sandboxReporter 2 -ipcHandle 3 -initialChannelId {bb029721-5977-4705-ad78-2ea3538b7e9e} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 4 -crashHelper 5 -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 4 rdd
55919 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:37688 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {a4583c21-4229-438a-8c96-2113c1143f57} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 5 tab
55926 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:37688 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {d2063438-6326-4644-868c-5381bf163cac} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 6 tab
55941 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:37688 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {5fe4ffb1-09a8-46b0-abff-90bb741e7037} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 7 tab
55955 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:37688 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {61e30359-82d5-468e-92b5-48611c9a8d3a} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 8 tab
55988 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:37688 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {4c19e004-b616-4be6-bb23-f25d20dfcb04} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 9 tab
56198 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:58404 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {a0c25ada-e715-4ac2-8a8e-2cbc33dd20a6} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 10 tab
56292 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxingKind 0 -prefsHandle 0:58449 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -sandboxReporter 2 -ipcHandle 3 -initialChannelId {175792b6-42f4-44a0-8e7a-bc9773876645} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 4 -crashHelper 5 -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 11 utility
100226 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:48635 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {f7599b59-bedd-42c6-8097-c1feb1e4bfdc} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 36 tab
162032 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:48636 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {8b33dc5f-45e9-4c0d-a8a5-b87e30c9de8c} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 117 tab
178967 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:48634 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {b6ce5ce3-809a-437b-b32c-73c5f4f5ee59} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 133 tab
200993 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:48634 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {a45cd2c2-d022-4786-85a8-f5020bd6d952} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 145 tab
206108 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:48634 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {c7366869-2bbb-4e54-ab76-22e85e04db11} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 146 tab
206963 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:48635 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {77b15f02-fc53-46a3-8e48-e330bfda72ca} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 147 tab
211266 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:48635 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {a672d093-9393-4ebc-a7f6-a20f4e5b98f3} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 155 tab
212024 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:48635 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {553f6230-f592-4cef-ad53-dc28b988a149} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 157 tab
213046 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:48635 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {5b33d697-ed7e-4bdb-8a74-24ae3814066e} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 158 tab
213426 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:48635 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {0e35aae6-387c-480e-81b3-29da4a1e4bb4} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 159 tab
213786 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:48635 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {e8d4ed31-71b0-47da-88c8-d7f3ec3b5b0d} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 160 tab
1160324 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:48635 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {59da159d-3656-4770-8fab-a7cff3608268} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 625 tab
1165181 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:48635 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {4ea23ea2-bbff-4cc2-a32b-f4fb7bb7ee9f} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 626 tab
1170103 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:48635 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {b99dcd74-38db-47c8-b20b-8e7df943834d} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 627 tab
mitmanek:~ $ 
```
Meanwhile nothing real happened here for four years, freshly upgraded org.mozilla.firefox refuses to start on my openSUSE/MicroOS (needless to add that flatpaked Firefox was working for me until yesterday).

```
mitmanek:~ $ flatpak run org.mozilla.firefox 
[2] Sandbox: CanCreateUserNamespace() clone() failure: EPERM
mitmanek:~ $ LANG=en_GB flatpak info org.mozilla.firefox 

Firefox - Fast, Private & Safe Web Browser

          ID: org.mozilla.firefox
         Ref: app/org.mozilla.firefox/x86_64/stable
        Arch: x86_64
      Branch: stable
     Version: 144.0
     License: MPL-2.0
      Origin: flathub
  Collection: org.flathub.Stable
Installation: user
   Installed: 300.8 MB
     Runtime: org.freedesktop.Platform/x86_64/24.08
         Sdk: org.freedesktop.Sdk/x86_64/24.08

      Commit: 16c8616b99af926c91734bd73ea6a2644965d02b6336ebdf11dd952dea097865
      Parent: 83102f67e8674a8a3d4c4134c9bbda695a0bbede915957a6a99eceeb00e82953
     Subject: Export org.mozilla.firefox
        Date: 2025-10-14 12:33:10 +0000
mitmanek:~ $ 
```

It seems that some firefox processes are running, but nothing visible shows up:

```
mitmanek:~ $ pgrep -f -a firefox/browser
55808 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -ipcHandle 0 -signalPipe 1 -initialChannelId {0f22ef83-d93c-4226-b919-7731995047eb} -parentPid 2 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 1 forkserver
55811 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -prefsHandle 0:47851 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -sandboxReporter 2 -ipcHandle 3 -initialChannelId {2935a0e0-06e3-4a2a-a36a-952f07a77251} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 4 -crashHelper 5 -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 2 socket
55863 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:47920 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {00478a7c-954c-4a63-a6cb-e70f5f327687} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 3 tab
55873 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -prefsHandle 0:47920 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -sandboxReporter 2 -ipcHandle 3 -initialChannelId {bb029721-5977-4705-ad78-2ea3538b7e9e} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 4 -crashHelper 5 -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 4 rdd
55919 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:37688 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {a4583c21-4229-438a-8c96-2113c1143f57} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 5 tab
55926 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:37688 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {d2063438-6326-4644-868c-5381bf163cac} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 6 tab
55941 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:37688 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {5fe4ffb1-09a8-46b0-abff-90bb741e7037} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 7 tab
55955 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:37688 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {61e30359-82d5-468e-92b5-48611c9a8d3a} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 8 tab
55988 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:37688 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {4c19e004-b616-4be6-bb23-f25d20dfcb04} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 9 tab
56198 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:58404 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {a0c25ada-e715-4ac2-8a8e-2cbc33dd20a6} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 10 tab
56292 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxingKind 0 -prefsHandle 0:58449 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -sandboxReporter 2 -ipcHandle 3 -initialChannelId {175792b6-42f4-44a0-8e7a-bc9773876645} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 4 -crashHelper 5 -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 11 utility
100226 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:48635 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {f7599b59-bedd-42c6-8097-c1feb1e4bfdc} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 36 tab
162032 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:48636 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {8b33dc5f-45e9-4c0d-a8a5-b87e30c9de8c} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 117 tab
178967 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:48634 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {b6ce5ce3-809a-437b-b32c-73c5f4f5ee59} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 133 tab
200993 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:48634 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {a45cd2c2-d022-4786-85a8-f5020bd6d952} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 145 tab
206108 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:48634 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {c7366869-2bbb-4e54-ab76-22e85e04db11} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 146 tab
206963 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:48635 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {77b15f02-fc53-46a3-8e48-e330bfda72ca} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 147 tab
211266 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:48635 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {a672d093-9393-4ebc-a7f6-a20f4e5b98f3} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 155 tab
212024 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:48635 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {553f6230-f592-4cef-ad53-dc28b988a149} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 157 tab
213046 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:48635 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {5b33d697-ed7e-4bdb-8a74-24ae3814066e} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 158 tab
213426 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:48635 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {0e35aae6-387c-480e-81b3-29da4a1e4bb4} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 159 tab
213786 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:48635 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {e8d4ed31-71b0-47da-88c8-d7f3ec3b5b0d} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 160 tab
1160324 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:48635 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {59da159d-3656-4770-8fab-a7cff3608268} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 625 tab
1165181 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:48635 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {4ea23ea2-bbff-4cc2-a32b-f4fb7bb7ee9f} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 626 tab
1170103 /app/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -contentproc -isForBrowser -prefsHandle 0:48635 -prefMapHandle 1:290443 -jsInitHandle 2:224660 -parentBuildID 20251009125714 -sandboxReporter 3 -ipcHandle 4 -initialChannelId {b99dcd74-38db-47c8-b20b-8e7df943834d} -parentPid 2 -crashReporter 5 -crashHelper 6 -greomni /app/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /app/lib/firefox/browser/omni.ja -appDir /app/lib/firefox/browser 627 tab
mitmanek:~ $ 
```

And no, there is [no 1Password](https://github.com/zen-browser/desktop/issues/10481#issuecomment-3340142758) (or any other password-related extension) anywhere near my Firefox.

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