+++ This bug was initially created as a clone of Bug #1774386 +++ Can we do something about fake display names showing up in edit mode (depending on sort mode)? 102.0b8 (64-bit), Win10 Fake display names are still happening for contacts having only email address, but no names. Extremely irritating, user deletes the display name and it keeps bouncing back (after saving and re-editing the card), but it's never used for write (and shouldn't, because it's fake). See screencast of attachment 9281452 [details] in Bug 1774386 comment 2. (In reply to Thomas D. (:thomas8) from Bug 1774386 comment #5) > However, I am still seeing the fake display name issue (see attached screencast 2): > For email-only contacts, and depending on sort order: > - local part of email sometimes showing up as fake display name value in display name field (for `Display Name` and `Last, First`), > - but not showing for other sort order (`First Last`) > > Also, fake display name never used for `Write` (which is correct as it's fake, but also irritating as one would expect a display name present in the field to be used).
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+++ This bug was initially created as a clone of Bug #1774386 +++ Can we do something about fake display names showing up in edit mode (depending on sort mode)? 102.0b8 (64-bit), Win10 Fake display names are still happening for contacts having only email address, but no names. Extremely irritating, user deletes the display name and it keeps bouncing back (after saving and re-editing the card), but it's never used for write (and shouldn't, because it's fake). See screencast of attachment 9281452 [details] in Bug 1774386 comment 2. STR 1. Create new contact with an email address `jane@example.com` but no names at all 2. From List display options, choose either `Display Name` or `Last, First` 3. Edit contact 4. Try to remove fake display name, save contact and re-edit 5. Write to contact Actual - contact shows local part of email address (`jane`) in the display name field, although user never specified a display name - attempts to remove the fake display name fail, will always bounce back - write to contact will correctly *not* use the display name (because it's fake), but it's also irritating Expected - don't show fake display name ----- (In reply to Thomas D. (:thomas8) from Bug 1774386 comment #5) > However, I am still seeing the fake display name issue (see attached screencast 2): > For email-only contacts, and depending on sort order: > - local part of email sometimes showing up as fake display name value in display name field (for `Display Name` and `Last, First`), > - but not showing for other sort order (`First Last`) > > Also, fake display name never used for `Write` (which is correct as it's fake, but also irritating as one would expect a display name present in the field to be used).
+++ This bug was initially created as a clone of Bug #1774386 +++ Can we do something about fake display names showing up in edit mode (depending on sort mode)? 102.0b8 (64-bit), Win10 Fake display names are still happening for contacts having only email address, but no names. Extremely irritating, user deletes the display name and it keeps bouncing back (after saving and re-editing the card), but it's never used for write (and shouldn't, because it's fake). See screencast of attachment 9281452 [details] in Bug 1774386 comment 2. STR 1. Create new contact with an email address `jane@example.com` but no names at all 2. From List display options, choose either `Display Name` or `Last, First` 3. Edit contact 4. Try to remove fake display name, save contact and re-edit 5. Write to contact Actual - contact shows local part of email address (`jane`) in the display name field, although user never specified a display name - attempts to remove the fake display name fail, will always bounce back - write to contact will correctly *not* use the display name (because it's fake), but it's also irritating Expected - don't show fake display name when editing email-only contact in the respective sort modes ----- (In reply to Thomas D. (:thomas8) from Bug 1774386 comment #5) > However, I am still seeing the fake display name issue (see attached screencast 2): > For email-only contacts, and depending on sort order: > - local part of email sometimes showing up as fake display name value in display name field (for `Display Name` and `Last, First`), > - but not showing for other sort order (`First Last`) > > Also, fake display name never used for `Write` (which is correct as it's fake, but also irritating as one would expect a display name present in the field to be used).
+++ This bug was initially created as a clone of Bug #1774386 +++ Can we do something about fake display names showing up in edit mode (depending on sort mode)? 102.0b8 (64-bit), Win10 Fake display names are still happening for contacts having only email address, but no names. Extremely irritating, user deletes the display name and it keeps bouncing back (after saving and re-editing the card), but it's never used for write (and shouldn't, because it's fake). STR 1. Create new contact with an email address `jane@example.com` but no names at all 2. From List display options, choose either `Display Name` or `Last, First` (bug won't occur with `First Last`) 3. Edit contact 4. Try to remove fake display name, save contact and re-edit 5. Write to contact Actual (see screencast of attachment 9281452 [details] in Bug 1774386 comment 2) - contact shows local part of email address (`jane`) in the display name field, although user never specified a display name - attempts to remove the fake display name fail, will always bounce back - write to contact will correctly *not* use the display name (because it's fake), but it's also irritating Expected - don't show fake display name when editing email-only contact in the respective sort modes ----- (In reply to Thomas D. (:thomas8) from Bug 1774386 comment #5) > However, I am still seeing the fake display name issue (see attached screencast 2): > For email-only contacts, and depending on sort order: > - local part of email sometimes showing up as fake display name value in display name field (for `Display Name` and `Last, First`), > - but not showing for other sort order (`First Last`) > > Also, fake display name never used for `Write` (which is correct as it's fake, but also irritating as one would expect a display name present in the field to be used).
+++ This bug was initially created as a clone of Bug #1774386 +++ Can we do something about fake display names showing up in edit mode (depending on sort mode)? 102.0b8 (64-bit), Win10 Fake display names are still happening for contacts having only email address, but no names. Extremely irritating, user deletes the display name and it keeps bouncing back (after saving and re-editing the card), but it's never used for write (and shouldn't, because it's fake). STR 1. Create new contact with an email address `jane@example.com` but no names at all, and `Save` it. 2. From List display options, choose either `Display Name` or `Last, First` (bug won't occur with `First Last`) 3. Edit contact 4. Try to remove fake display name, save contact and re-edit - then `Cancel` (important) 5. Write to contact Actual (see screencast of attachment 9281452 [details] in Bug 1774386 comment 2) - contact shows local part of email address (`jane`) in the display name field, although user never specified a display name - attempts to remove the fake display name fail, will always bounce back - write to contact will correctly *not* use the display name (because it's fake), but it's also irritating - if you `Save` the contact while the fake display name is present, you will end up with the local part of the email address as a display name - entirely not useful as the informational value of localparts is entirely unpredictable and may even cause ambiguity: both `admin@thunderbird.net` and `admin@microsoft.net` will end up just having `admin` as a display name, e.g. showing on received messages. Iow, Thunderbird is all but forcing/tricking me into using the local part of the email as a display name even though I've never asked for that, and it's not helpful. Users should have the freedom of *not* providing a display name as they please. Expected - don't show fake display name when editing email-only contact in the respective sort modes - iow, don't suggest/prefill the local part of email addresses as a display name ----- (In reply to Thomas D. (:thomas8) from Bug 1774386 comment #5) > However, I am still seeing the fake display name issue (see attached screencast 2): > For email-only contacts, and depending on sort order: > - local part of email sometimes showing up as fake display name value in display name field (for `Display Name` and `Last, First`), > - but not showing for other sort order (`First Last`) > > Also, fake display name never used for `Write` (which is correct as it's fake, but also irritating as one would expect a display name present in the field to be used).
+++ This bug was initially created as a clone of Bug #1774386 +++ Can we do something about fake display names showing up in edit mode (depending on sort mode)? 102.0b8 (64-bit), Win10 Fake display names are still happening for contacts having only email address, but no names. Extremely irritating, user deletes the display name and it keeps bouncing back (after saving and re-editing the card), but it's never used for write (and shouldn't, because it's fake). STR 1. Create new contact with an email address `jane@example.com` but no names at all, and `Save` it. 2. From List display options, choose either `Display Name` or `Last, First` (bug won't occur with `First Last`) 3. Edit contact 4. Try to remove fake display name, save contact and re-edit - then `Cancel` (important) 5. Write to contact Actual (see screencast of attachment 9281452 [details] in Bug 1774386 comment 2) - contact shows local part of email address (`jane`) in the display name field, although user never specified a display name - attempts to remove the fake display name fail, will always bounce back - write to contact will correctly *not* use the display name (because it's fake, as long as you don't save it), but it's also irritating - if you `Save` the contact while the fake display name is present, you will end up with the local part of the email address as a display name - entirely not useful as the informational value of localparts is entirely unpredictable and may even cause ambiguity: both `admin@thunderbird.net` and `admin@microsoft.net` will end up just having `admin` as a display name, e.g. showing on received messages. Iow, Thunderbird is all but forcing/tricking me into using the local part of the email as a display name even though I've never asked for that, and it's not helpful. Users should have the freedom of *not* providing a display name as they please. Expected - don't show fake display name when editing email-only contact in the respective sort modes - iow, don't suggest/prefill the local part of email addresses as a display name ----- (In reply to Thomas D. (:thomas8) from Bug 1774386 comment #5) > However, I am still seeing the fake display name issue (see attached screencast 2): > For email-only contacts, and depending on sort order: > - local part of email sometimes showing up as fake display name value in display name field (for `Display Name` and `Last, First`), > - but not showing for other sort order (`First Last`) > > Also, fake display name never used for `Write` (which is correct as it's fake, but also irritating as one would expect a display name present in the field to be used).
+++ This bug was initially created as a clone of Bug #1774386 +++ Can we do something about fake display names showing up in edit mode (depending on sort mode)? 102.0b8 (64-bit), Win10 Fake display names are still happening for contacts having only email address, but no names. Extremely irritating, user deletes the display name and it keeps bouncing back (after saving and re-editing the card), but it's never used for write (and shouldn't, because it's fake). STR 1. Create new contact with an email address `jane@example.com` but no names at all, and `Save` it. 2. From List display options, choose either `Display Name` or `Last, First` (bug won't occur with `First Last`) 3. Edit contact 4. Try to remove fake display name, save contact and re-edit - then `Cancel` (important) 5. Write to contact Actual (see screencast of attachment 9281452 [details] in Bug 1774386 comment 2) - contact shows local part of email address (`jane`) in the display name field, although user never specified a display name - attempts to remove the fake display name fail, will always bounce back - write to contact will correctly *not* use the display name (because it's fake, as long as you don't save it), but it's also irritating - if you `Save` the contact while the fake display name is present, you will end up with the local part of the email address as a display name - entirely not useful as the informational value of localparts is entirely unpredictable and may even cause ambiguity: both `admin@thunderbird.net` and `admin@microsoft.net` will end up just having `admin` as a display name, e.g. showing on received messages. Iow, Thunderbird is all but forcing/tricking me into using the local part of the email as a display name even though I've never asked for that, and it's not helpful. Users should have the freedom of *not* providing a display name as they please. Expected - don't show fake display name when editing email-only contact in the respective sort modes - iow, don't suggest/prefill the local part of email addresses as a display name - Thunderbird shouldn't interfere with my data! ----- (In reply to Thomas D. (:thomas8) from Bug 1774386 comment #5) > However, I am still seeing the fake display name issue (see attached screencast 2): > For email-only contacts, and depending on sort order: > - local part of email sometimes showing up as fake display name value in display name field (for `Display Name` and `Last, First`), > - but not showing for other sort order (`First Last`) > > Also, fake display name never used for `Write` (which is correct as it's fake, but also irritating as one would expect a display name present in the field to be used).
+++ This bug was initially created as a clone of Bug #1774386 +++ Can we do something about fake display names showing up in edit mode (depending on sort mode)? 102.0b8 (64-bit), Win10 Fake display names are still happening for contacts having only email address, but no names. Extremely irritating, user deletes the display name and it keeps bouncing back (after saving and re-editing the card), but it's never used for write (and shouldn't, because it's fake). STR 1. Create new contact with an email address `jane@example.com` but no names at all, and `Save` it. 2. From List display options, choose either `Display Name` or `Last, First` (bug won't occur with `First Last`) 3. Edit contact 4. Try to remove fake display name, save contact and re-edit - then `Cancel` (important) 5. Write to contact Actual (see screencast of attachment 9281452 [details] in Bug 1774386 comment 2) - contact shows local part of email address (`jane`) in the display name field, although user never specified a display name - attempts to remove the fake display name fail, will always bounce back - write to contact will correctly *not* use the display name (because it's fake, as long as you don't save it), but it's also irritating - if you `Save` the contact in step 4 while the fake display name is present, you will end up with the local part of the email address as a display name - entirely not useful as the informational value of localparts is entirely unpredictable and may even cause ambiguity: both `admin@thunderbird.net` and `admin@microsoft.net` will end up just having `admin` as a display name, e.g. showing on received messages. Iow, Thunderbird is all but forcing/tricking me into using the local part of the email as a display name even though I've never asked for that, and it's not helpful. Users should have the freedom of *not* providing a display name as they please. Expected - don't show fake display name when editing email-only contact in the respective sort modes - iow, don't suggest/prefill the local part of email addresses as a display name - Thunderbird shouldn't interfere with my data! ----- (In reply to Thomas D. (:thomas8) from Bug 1774386 comment #5) > However, I am still seeing the fake display name issue (see attached screencast 2): > For email-only contacts, and depending on sort order: > - local part of email sometimes showing up as fake display name value in display name field (for `Display Name` and `Last, First`), > - but not showing for other sort order (`First Last`) > > Also, fake display name never used for `Write` (which is correct as it's fake, but also irritating as one would expect a display name present in the field to be used).
+++ This bug was initially created as a clone of Bug #1774386 +++ Can we do something about fake display names showing up in edit mode (depending on sort mode)? 102.0b8 (64-bit), Win10 Fake display names are still happening for contacts having only email address, but no names. Extremely irritating, user deletes the display name and it keeps bouncing back (after saving and re-editing the card), but it's never used for write (and shouldn't, because it's fake). **STR** 1. Create new contact with an email address `jane@example.com` but no names at all, and `Save` it. 2. From List display options, choose either `Display Name` or `Last, First` (bug won't occur with `First Last`) 3. Edit contact 4. Try to remove fake display name, save contact and re-edit - then `Cancel` (important) 5. Write to contact **Actual** (**see screencast** of attachment 9281452 [details] in Bug 1774386 comment 2) - contact shows local part of email address (`jane`) in the display name field, although user never specified a display name - attempts to remove the fake display name fail, will always bounce back - write to contact will correctly *not* use the display name (because it's fake, as long as you don't save it), but it's also irritating - if you `Save` the contact in step 4 while the fake display name is present, you will end up with the local part of the email address as a display name - entirely not useful as the informational value of localparts is entirely unpredictable and may even cause ambiguity: both `admin@thunderbird.net` and `admin@microsoft.net` will end up just having `admin` as a display name, e.g. showing on received messages. Iow, Thunderbird is all but forcing/tricking me into using the local part of the email as a display name even though I've never asked for that, and it's not helpful. Users should have the freedom of *not* providing a display name as they please. **Expected** - don't show fake display name when editing email-only contact in the respective sort modes - iow, don't suggest/prefill the local part of email addresses as a display name - Thunderbird shouldn't interfere with my data! ----- (In reply to Thomas D. (:thomas8) from Bug 1774386 comment #5) > However, I am still seeing the fake display name issue (see attached screencast 2): > For email-only contacts, and depending on sort order: > - local part of email sometimes showing up as fake display name value in display name field (for `Display Name` and `Last, First`), > - but not showing for other sort order (`First Last`) > > Also, fake display name never used for `Write` (which is correct as it's fake, but also irritating as one would expect a display name present in the field to be used).
+++ This bug was initially created as a clone of Bug #1774386 +++ Can we do something about fake display names showing up in edit mode (depending on sort mode)? 102.0b8 (64-bit), Win10 Fake display names are still happening for contacts having only email address, but no names. Extremely irritating, user deletes the display name and it keeps bouncing back (after saving and re-editing the card), but it's never used for write (and shouldn't, because it's fake). **STR** 1. Create new contact with an email address `jane@example.com` but no names at all, and `Save` it. 2. From List display options, choose either `Display Name` or `Last, First` (bug won't occur with `First Last`) 3. Edit contact 4. Try to remove fake display name, save contact and re-edit - then `Cancel` (important) 5. Write to contact **Actual** (**see screencast** of attachment 9281452 [details] in Bug 1774386 comment 2) - contact shows local part of email address (`jane`) in the display name field, although user never specified a display name - attempts to remove the fake display name fail, will always bounce back - write to contact will correctly *not* use the display name (because it's fake, as long as you don't save it), but it's also irritating - if you `Save` the contact in step 4 while the fake display name is present, you will end up with the local part of the email address as a display name - entirely not useful as the informational value of localparts is entirely unpredictable and may even cause ambiguity: both `admin@thunderbird.net` and `admin@microsoft.net` will end up just having `admin` as a display name, e.g. showing on received messages. Iow, Thunderbird is all but forcing/tricking me into using the local part of the email as a display name even though I've never asked for that, and it's not helpful. Users should have the freedom of *not* providing a display name as they please. - Worse, it's inconsistent because Thunderbird will *not* inject the local-part "display name" for `First Last` view mode. **Expected** - don't show fake display name when editing email-only contact in the respective sort modes - iow, don't suggest/prefill the local part of email addresses as a display name - Thunderbird shouldn't interfere with my data! ----- (In reply to Thomas D. (:thomas8) from Bug 1774386 comment #5) > However, I am still seeing the fake display name issue (see attached screencast 2): > For email-only contacts, and depending on sort order: > - local part of email sometimes showing up as fake display name value in display name field (for `Display Name` and `Last, First`), > - but not showing for other sort order (`First Last`) > > Also, fake display name never used for `Write` (which is correct as it's fake, but also irritating as one would expect a display name present in the field to be used).
+++ This bug was initially created as a clone of Bug #1774386 +++ Can we do something about fake display names showing up in edit mode (depending on sort mode)? 102.0b8 (64-bit), Win10 Fake display names are still happening for contacts having only email address, but no names. Extremely irritating, user deletes the display name and it keeps bouncing back (after saving and re-editing the card), but it's not used for write (and shouldn't, because it's fake), unless explicitly saved. **STR** 1. Create new contact with an email address `jane@example.com` but no names at all, and `Save` it. 2. From List display options, choose either `Display Name` or `Last, First` (bug won't occur with `First Last`) 3. Edit contact 4. Try to remove fake display name, save contact and re-edit - then `Cancel` (important) 5. Write to contact **Actual** (**see screencast** of attachment 9281452 [details] in Bug 1774386 comment 2) - contact shows local part of email address (`jane`) in the display name field, although user never specified a display name - attempts to remove the fake display name fail, will always bounce back - write to contact will correctly *not* use the display name (because it's fake, as long as you don't save it), but it's also irritating - if you `Save` the contact in step 4 while the fake display name is present, you will end up with the local part of the email address as a display name - entirely not useful as the informational value of localparts is entirely unpredictable and may even cause ambiguity: both `admin@thunderbird.net` and `admin@microsoft.net` will end up just having `admin` as a display name, e.g. showing on received messages. Iow, Thunderbird is all but forcing/tricking me into using the local part of the email as a display name even though I've never asked for that, and it's not helpful. Users should have the freedom of *not* providing a display name as they please. - Worse, it's inconsistent because Thunderbird will *not* inject the local-part "display name" for `First Last` view mode. **Expected** - don't show fake display name when editing email-only contact in the respective sort modes - iow, don't suggest/prefill the local part of email addresses as a display name - Thunderbird shouldn't interfere with my data! ----- (In reply to Thomas D. (:thomas8) from Bug 1774386 comment #5) > However, I am still seeing the fake display name issue (see attached screencast 2): > For email-only contacts, and depending on sort order: > - local part of email sometimes showing up as fake display name value in display name field (for `Display Name` and `Last, First`), > - but not showing for other sort order (`First Last`) > > Also, fake display name never used for `Write` (which is correct as it's fake, but also irritating as one would expect a display name present in the field to be used).