Posting this here because I am not sure where else to post. Currently, there are three main tag alternatives that make tags more accessible to users. All of them allow users to select multiple tags more easily than is currently the case in TB 102. ### 1. Thunderbird 115 Beta (2023-06-12) Tags are located on the left side of the UI, similar to the location of folders, accounts and feeds. Pro: - Shows globally tagged messages. Similar to "global search" → it is "global tag search". - Is scaleable with ever more folders / accounts / tags → there is a scrollbar - lacks a searchbar for tags Contra: - Competes with folders, accounts and feeds for screenspace → easy to have tags pushed off screen - There is no searchbar for tags - When users scroll through their folders and select a , they have to scroll back to tags, if they want to select tags → not time efficient! ### 2. [Betterbird](https://betterbird.eu/) Tags are located in the `Quick Filters` toolbar Pro: - Shows only tagged messages for selected folders / messages. - allows to select any or all (boolean) - does not compete with folders / accounts / feeds for screenspace - Users can scroll through folders, accounts and feeds without having to scroll back to tags. - Text of tags can be read easily. Good contrast. Highlighting of marked tags vs non-marked tags is great too. Contra: - Is **not** scaleable with ever more tags → there is no scrollbar, and even if there were any, it would be quite awkward to use, as it is a single row. → There is no search bar for tags - "Hidden" location - Not accessible via keyboard ### 3. The [Tag Popup](https://addons.thunderbird.net/de/thunderbird/addon/tag-toolbar/) Addon Tags are located at 1) the top right side of the `Mail toolbar` and 2) the message header Pro: - Scales with ever more tags: Has scrollbar and searchbar for tags - Has "categories" for tags, which are great!!! → useful when there are too many tags. → useful for hiding tags that are only needed temporarily for filters - Has configuration options for background colour and text colour of tags - Does not compete with folders, accounts and feeds for screen space - Users can scroll through folders, accounts and feeds without having to scroll back to tags. Contra: - This addon only allows you to tag or untag a message, not to "find" the message within the TB instance. - Not accessible via keyboard - Main config menu very hidden in the extensions menu - Background colour in message header is always white. There, the background and text colour contrast is awful. (e.g. try to set tag colour to white and you will see). Here, Betterbirds way of doing things would be strongly preferable. ### To summarize: I really want tags feature a mixture of all three implementations. Currently to use all features, I have to install all three of them. They all have something good to contribue. 1. Use the locations of the tag popup addon → 1) in message header and 2) somewhere on the top or top right side. 2. Implement the features of the tag popup implementation. (Fix the "contra") 3. Allow to search for tagged messages everywhere like TB Beta does 4. Allow to search for tagged messages within a folder / feed like Betterbird does.
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Posting this here because I am not sure where else to post. Currently, there are three main tag alternatives that make tags more accessible to users. All of them allow users to select multiple tags more easily than is currently the case in TB 102. ### 1. Thunderbird 115 Beta (2023-06-12) Tags are located on the left side of the UI, similar to the location of folders, accounts and feeds. Pro: - Shows globally tagged messages. Similar to "global search" → it is "global tag search". - Is scaleable with ever more folders / accounts / tags → there is a scrollbar - lacks a searchbar for tags Contra: - Competes with folders, accounts and feeds for screenspace → easy to have tags pushed off screen - There is no searchbar for tags - When users scroll through their folders and select a , they have to scroll back to tags, if they want to select tags → not time efficient! ### 2. [Betterbird](https://betterbird.eu/) Tags are located in the `Quick Filters` toolbar Pro: - Shows only tagged messages for selected folders / messages. - allows to select any or all (boolean) - does not compete with folders / accounts / feeds for screenspace - Users can scroll through folders, accounts and feeds without having to scroll back to tags. - Text of tags can be read easily. Good contrast. Highlighting of marked tags vs non-marked tags is great too. Contra: - This implementation only searches for tagged messages. It does offer users to tag / untag messages. - Is **not** scaleable with ever more tags → there is no scrollbar, and even if there were any, it would be quite awkward to use, as it is a single row. → There is no search bar for tags - "Hidden" location - Not accessible via keyboard ### 3. The [Tag Popup](https://addons.thunderbird.net/de/thunderbird/addon/tag-toolbar/) Addon Tags are located at 1) the top right side of the `Mail toolbar` and 2) the message header Pro: - Scales with ever more tags: Has scrollbar and searchbar for tags - Has "categories" for tags, which are great!!! → useful when there are too many tags. → useful for hiding tags that are only needed temporarily for filters - Has configuration options for background colour and text colour of tags - Does not compete with folders, accounts and feeds for screen space - Users can scroll through folders, accounts and feeds without having to scroll back to tags. Contra: - This addon only allows you to tag or untag a message, not to "find" the message within the TB instance. - Not accessible via keyboard - Main config menu very hidden in the extensions menu - Background colour in message header is always white. There, the background and text colour contrast is awful. (e.g. try to set tag colour to white and you will see). Here, Betterbirds way of doing things would be strongly preferable. ### To summarize: I really want tags feature a mixture of all three implementations. Currently to use all features, I have to install all three of them. They all have something good to contribue. 1. Use the locations of the tag popup addon → 1) in message header and 2) somewhere on the top or top right side. 2. Implement the features of the tag popup implementation. (Fix the "contra") 3. Allow to search for tagged messages everywhere like TB Beta does 4. Allow to search for tagged messages within a folder / feed like Betterbird does.
Posting this here because I am not sure where else to post. Currently, there are three main tag alternatives that make tags more accessible to users. All of them make tags more visible and provide more features than is currently the case in TB 102. ### 1. Thunderbird 115 Beta (2023-06-12) Tags are located on the left side of the UI, similar to the location of folders, accounts and feeds. Pro: - Shows globally tagged messages. Similar to "global search" → it is "global tag search". - Is scaleable with ever more folders / accounts / tags → there is a scrollbar - lacks a searchbar for tags Contra: - only searches tagged messages and does not offer users to tag / untagg messages. - Competes with folders, accounts and feeds for screenspace → easy to have tags pushed off screen - There is no searchbar for tags - When users scroll through their folders and select a , they have to scroll back to tags, if they want to select tags → not time efficient! ### 2. [Betterbird](https://betterbird.eu/) Tags are located in the `Quick Filters` toolbar Pro: - Shows only tagged messages for selected folders / messages. - allows to select any or all (boolean) - does not compete with folders / accounts / feeds for screenspace - Users can scroll through folders, accounts and feeds without having to scroll back to tags. - Text of tags can be read easily. Good contrast. Highlighting of marked tags vs non-marked tags is great too. Contra: - This implementation only searches for tagged messages. It does offer users to tag / untag messages. - Is **not** scaleable with ever more tags → there is no scrollbar, and even if there were any, it would be quite awkward to use, as it is a single row. → There is no search bar for tags - "Hidden" location - Not accessible via keyboard ### 3. The [Tag Popup](https://addons.thunderbird.net/de/thunderbird/addon/tag-toolbar/) Addon Tags are located at 1) the top right side of the `Mail toolbar` and 2) the message header Pro: - Scales with ever more tags: Has scrollbar and searchbar for tags - Has "categories" for tags, which are great!!! → useful when there are too many tags. → useful for hiding tags that are only needed temporarily for filters - Has configuration options for background colour and text colour of tags - Does not compete with folders, accounts and feeds for screen space - Users can scroll through folders, accounts and feeds without having to scroll back to tags. Contra: - This addon only allows you to tag or untag a message, not to "find" the message within the TB instance. - Not accessible via keyboard - Main config menu very hidden in the extensions menu - Background colour in message header is always white. There, the background and text colour contrast is awful. (e.g. try to set tag colour to white and you will see). Here, Betterbirds way of doing things would be strongly preferable. ### To summarize: I really want tags feature a mixture of all three implementations. Currently to use all features, I have to install all three of them. They all have something good to contribue. 1. Use the locations of the tag popup addon → 1) in message header and 2) somewhere on the top or top right side. 2. Implement the features of the tag popup implementation. (Fix the "contra") 3. Allow to search for tagged messages everywhere like TB Beta does 4. Allow to search for tagged messages within a folder / feed like Betterbird does.
Posting this here because I am not sure where else to post. Currently, there are three main tag alternatives that make tags more accessible to users. All of them make tags more visible and provide more features than is currently the case in TB 102. ### 1. Thunderbird 115 Beta (2023-06-12) Tags are located on the left side of the UI, similar to the location of folders, accounts and feeds. Pro: - Shows globally tagged messages. Similar to "global search" → it is "global tag search". - Is scaleable with ever more folders / accounts / tags → there is a scrollbar - lacks a searchbar for tags Contra: - only searches tagged messages and does not offer users to tag / untagg messages. - Competes with folders, accounts and feeds for screenspace → easy to have tags pushed off screen - There is no searchbar for tags - When users scroll through their folders and select a , they have to scroll back to tags, if they want to select tags → not time efficient! ### 2. [Betterbird](https://betterbird.eu/) Tags are located in the `Quick Filters` toolbar Pro: - Shows only tagged messages for selected folders / messages. - allows to select any or all (boolean) - does not compete with folders / accounts / feeds for screenspace - Users can scroll through folders, accounts and feeds without having to scroll back to tags. - Text of tags can be read easily. Good contrast. Highlighting of marked tags vs non-marked tags is great too. Contra: - This implementation only searches for tagged messages. It does offer users to tag / untag messages. - Is **not** scaleable with ever more tags → there is no scrollbar, and even if there were any, it would be quite awkward to use, as it is a single row. → There is no search bar for tags - "Hidden" location - Not accessible via keyboard ### 3. The [Tag Popup](https://addons.thunderbird.net/de/thunderbird/addon/tag-toolbar/) Addon Tags are located at 1) the top right side of the `Mail toolbar` and 2) the message header Pro: - Scales with ever more tags: Has scrollbar and searchbar for tags - Has "categories" for tags, which are great!!! → useful when there are too many tags. → useful for hiding tags that are only needed temporarily for filters - Has configuration options for background colour and text colour of tags - Does not compete with folders, accounts and feeds for screen space - Users can scroll through folders, accounts and feeds without having to scroll back to tags. Contra: - This addon only allows you to tag or untag a message, not to "find" the message within the TB instance. - Not accessible via keyboard - Main config menu very hidden in the extensions menu - Background colour in message header is always white. There, the background and text colour contrast is awful. (e.g. try to set tag colour to white and you will see). Here, Betterbirds way of doing things would be strongly preferable. ### To summarize: I really want the tags feature to be a mixture of all three implementations. Currently to use all features, I have to install all three of them. They all have something good to contribue. 1. Use the locations of the tag popup addon → 1) in message header and 2) somewhere on the top or top right side. 2. Implement the features of the tag popup implementation. (Fix the "contra") 3. Allow to search for tagged messages everywhere like TB Beta does 4. Allow to search for tagged messages within a folder / feed like Betterbird does.
Posting this here because I am not sure where else to post. Currently, there are three main tag alternatives that make tags more accessible to users. All of them make tags more visible and provide more features than is currently the case in TB 102. ### 1. Thunderbird 115 Beta (2023-06-12) Tags are located on the left side of the UI, similar to the location of folders, accounts and feeds. Pro: - Shows globally tagged messages. Similar to "global search" → it is "global tag search". - Is scaleable with ever more folders / accounts / tags → there is a scrollbar - lacks a searchbar for tags Contra: - only searches tagged messages and does not offer users to tag / untagg messages. - Competes with folders, accounts and feeds for screenspace → easy to have tags pushed off screen - There is no searchbar for tags - When users scroll through their folders and select a , they have to scroll back to tags, if they want to select tags → not time efficient! ### 2. [Betterbird](https://betterbird.eu/) Tags are located in the `Quick Filters` toolbar Pro: - Shows only tagged messages for selected folders / messages. - allows to select any or all (boolean) - does not compete with folders / accounts / feeds for screenspace - Users can scroll through folders, accounts and feeds without having to scroll back to tags. - Text of tags can be read easily. Good contrast. Highlighting of marked tags vs non-marked tags is great too. Contra: - This implementation only searches for tagged messages. It does offer users to tag / untag messages. - Is **not** scaleable with ever more tags → there is no scrollbar, and even if there were any, it would be quite awkward to use, as it is a single row. → There is no search bar for tags - "Hidden" location - Not accessible via keyboard ### 3. The [Tag Popup](https://addons.thunderbird.net/de/thunderbird/addon/tag-toolbar/) Addon Tags are located at 1) the top right side of the `Mail toolbar` and 2) the message header Pro: - Scales with ever more tags: Has scrollbar and searchbar for tags - Has "categories" for tags, which are great!!! → useful when there are too many tags. → useful for hiding tags that are only needed temporarily for filters - Has configuration options for background colour and text colour of tags - Does not compete with folders, accounts and feeds for screen space - Users can scroll through folders, accounts and feeds without having to scroll back to tags. Contra: - This addon only allows you to tag or untag a message, not to "find" the message within the TB instance. - Not accessible via keyboard - Main config menu very hidden in the extensions menu - Background colour in message header is always white. There, the background and text colour contrast is awful. (e.g. try to set tag colour to white and you will see). Here, Betterbirds way of doing things would be strongly preferable. ### To summarize: I really want the tags feature to be a mixture of all three implementations. Currently to use all features, I have to install all three of them. They all have something good to contribue. 1. Use the locations of the tag popup addon → 1) in message header and 2) somewhere on the top or top right side. 2. Implement the features of the tag popup implementation. (Fix the "contra") 3. Allow to search for tagged messages everywhere like TB Beta does 4. Allow to search for tagged messages within a single folder / feed like Betterbird does.