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(In reply to Timvde from comment #0)
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> When disabling CSD, there are a few things that feel weird with the default toolbar order:
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> - The menu buttons aren't all the way on top
> - The tab-dependent buttons are above the tabs. This is against the whole "tabs on top" idea that the tab should conceptually contain everything that is tab-dependent (see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmgtW2Iw-kE).
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> The second issue is true regardless of CSD or not, but one could argue that it makes a bit more sense there.

Putting the Menu Bar in it's correct position is a question that has been asked so many times in bugs and also in the Support Forum, but despite being perfectly capable of creating this for decades and just about most programs I've ever come across using it, the new supernova design seems to present a huge problem with coding to faciliate it.
I do not any program that does not put a Main Menu Bar at the top, but it doesn't mean it does not exist.
Fortunately, this can be fixed at the moment by creating a 'userChrome.css' file.

See info here:
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1422908

(In reply to Timvde from comment #0)
> Created attachment 9345249 [details]
> Screenshot_20230723_135635.png
> 
> When disabling CSD, there are a few things that feel weird with the default toolbar order:
> 
> - The menu buttons aren't all the way on top
> - The tab-dependent buttons are above the tabs. This is against the whole "tabs on top" idea that the tab should conceptually contain everything that is tab-dependent (see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmgtW2Iw-kE).
> 
> The second issue is true regardless of CSD or not, but one could argue that it makes a bit more sense there.

This comment offers more comprehensive explanation on why it was positioned in that location.
https://thunderbird.topicbox.com/groups/beta/T1e491c1adeb509bf-M4c94be1d8be1017f0978c49f/will-i-be-able-to-hide-the-unified-toolbar

Therefore it is not seen as a defect and seems it will not be considered as an enhancement.

Putting the Menu Bar in it's correct position is a question that has been asked so many times in bugs and also in the Support Forum, but despite being perfectly capable of creating this for decades and just about most programs I've ever come across using it, the new supernova design seems to present a huge problem with coding to faciliate it.

I do not any program that does not put a Main Menu Bar at the top, but it doesn't mean it does not exist.
Fortunately, this can be fixed at the moment by creating a 'userChrome.css' file.

See info here:
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1422908