(In reply to Wayne Mery (:wsmwk) from comment #76) > Below is an initial proposal to UX. It is a combination of many of your suggestions. "remind me later" wording comes from aleca. [snip] Thomas, aleca, please weigh in Thanks Wayne for facing the beast here! This looks very promising and it's going in the right direction. I like the non-complex, non-technical, positive sound of it. I've been reflecting on this after a good look at the history, and I'd suggest some minor modifications based on Wayne's great initial proposal. --- **Compact Folders** Thunderbird needs to do regular file maintenance to improve the performance of your mail folders. This will recover 123 MB of disk space without changing your messages. To let Thunderbird do this automatically in the future without asking you, check the box below before choosing ‘Compact now’. For more information, see the <help article on compacting>. ▢ Compact folders automatically in the future without asking me `Compact now` `Remind me later` --- - Reshuffle and shorten Wayne's first two sentences - Simplify the language even more to sound less abstract and technical (also try to stick with [the top 3000 words of English](https://www.ef.com/wwen/english-resources/english-vocabulary/top-3000-words/): *periodically* isn't in that lot and really means *regularly*, also same as *routine* iiuc) - Present key benefit in the first sentence: Compact improves performance of user's mail folders (mail folders is something users know, and they will like better performance!) - Make it explicit that even though we're recovering disk space, we're not touching existing messages - "check the box" - plain and simple - Dialog UX best practice: Dialog should work without reading the small print, buttons should convey their action in a self-contained way. - `Proceed` isn't a clearly defined action; `Compact now` is, and that's what's going to happen (regardless of the checkbox value). We should make that clear, because compacting is an interruption which takes time - maybe we should even make that explicit in a friendly and harmless way? - `Do not ask me in the future`: perhaps not clear enough without the smallprint. This might be misunderstood as "I don't want to be bothered with compact - opt out and stop compacting for good", especially when it's just `Proceed` after that. It's really about `Compact folders automatically...`, but even automatical compacting might still ask. Hence I've phrased the checkbox text deliberately explicit for the avoidance of doubt.
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(In reply to Wayne Mery (:wsmwk) from comment #76) > Below is an initial proposal to UX. It is a combination of many of your suggestions. "remind me later" wording comes from aleca. [snip] Thomas, aleca, please weigh in Thanks Wayne for facing the beast here! This looks very promising and it's going in the right direction. I like the non-complex, less technical, positive sound of it. I've been reflecting on this after a good look at the history, and I'd suggest some minor modifications based on Wayne's great initial proposal. --- **Compact Folders** Thunderbird needs to do regular file maintenance to improve the performance of your mail folders. This will recover 123 MB of disk space without changing your messages. To let Thunderbird do this automatically in the future without asking you, check the box below before choosing ‘Compact now’. For more information, see the <help article on compacting>. ▢ Compact folders automatically in the future without asking me `Compact now` `Remind me later` --- - Reshuffle and shorten Wayne's first two sentences - Simplify the language even more to sound less abstract and technical (also try to stick with [the top 3000 words of English](https://www.ef.com/wwen/english-resources/english-vocabulary/top-3000-words/): *periodically* isn't in that lot and really means *regularly*, also same as *routine* iiuc) - Present key benefit in the first sentence: Compact improves performance of user's mail folders (mail folders is something users know, and they will like better performance!) - Make it explicit that even though we're recovering disk space, we're not touching existing messages - "check the box" - plain and simple - Dialog UX best practice: Dialog should work without reading the small print, buttons should convey their action in a self-contained way. - `Proceed` isn't a clearly defined action; `Compact now` is, and that's what's going to happen (regardless of the checkbox value). We should make that clear, because compacting is an interruption which takes time - maybe we should even make that explicit in a friendly and harmless way? - `Do not ask me in the future`: perhaps not clear enough without the smallprint. This might be misunderstood as "I don't want to be bothered with compact - opt out and stop compacting for good", especially when it's just `Proceed` after that. It's really about `Compact folders automatically...`, but even automatical compacting might still ask. Hence I've phrased the checkbox text deliberately explicit for the avoidance of doubt.
(In reply to Wayne Mery (:wsmwk) from comment #76) > Below is an initial proposal to UX. It is a combination of many of your suggestions. "remind me later" wording comes from aleca. [snip] Thomas, aleca, please weigh in Thanks Wayne for facing the beast here! This looks very promising and it's going in the right direction. I like the non-complex, less technical, positive sound of it. I've been reflecting on this after a good look at the history, and I'd suggest some minor modifications based on Wayne's great initial proposal. --- **Compact Folders** Thunderbird needs to do regular file maintenance to improve the performance of your mail folders. This will recover 123 MB of disk space without changing your messages. To let Thunderbird do this automatically in the future without asking you, check the box below before choosing ‘Compact now’. For more information, see the <help article on compacting>. ▢ Compact folders automatically in the future without asking me `Compact now` `Remind me later` --- - Reshuffle and shorten Wayne's first two sentences - Simplify the language even more to sound less abstract and technical (also try to stick with [the top 3000 words of English](https://www.ef.com/wwen/english-resources/english-vocabulary/top-3000-words/): *periodically* isn't in that lot and really means *regularly*, also same as *routine* iiuc) - Present key benefit in the first sentence: Compact improves performance of user's mail folders (*mail folders* is something users know, and they will certainly like better *performance*!) - Make it explicit that even though we're recovering disk space, we're not touching existing messages - "check the box" - plain and simple - Dialog UX best practice: Dialog should work without reading the small print, buttons should convey their action in a self-contained way. - `Proceed` isn't a clearly defined action; `Compact now` is, and that's what's going to happen (regardless of the checkbox value). We should make that clear, because compacting is an interruption which takes time - maybe we should even make that explicit in a friendly and harmless way? - `Do not ask me in the future`: perhaps not clear enough without the smallprint. This might be misunderstood as "I don't want to be bothered with compact - opt out and stop compacting for good", especially when it's just `Proceed` after that. It's really about `Compact folders automatically...`, but even automatical compacting might still ask. Hence I've phrased the checkbox text deliberately explicit for the avoidance of doubt.
(In reply to Wayne Mery (:wsmwk) from comment #76) > Below is an initial proposal to UX. It is a combination of many of your suggestions. "remind me later" wording comes from aleca. [snip] Thomas, aleca, please weigh in Thanks Wayne for facing the beast here! This looks very promising and it's going in the right direction. I like the non-complex, less technical, positive sound of it. I've been reflecting on this after a good look at the history, and I'd suggest some minor modifications based on Wayne's great initial proposal. --- **Compact Folders** Thunderbird needs to do regular file maintenance to improve the performance of your mail folders. This will recover 123 MB of disk space without changing your messages. To let Thunderbird do this automatically in the future without asking you, check the box below before choosing ‘Compact now’. For more information, see the <help article on compacting>. ▢ Compact folders automatically in the future without asking me `Compact now` `Remind me later` --- - Reshuffle and shorten Wayne's first two sentences - Simplify the language even more to sound less abstract and technical (also try to stick with [the top 3000 words of English](https://www.ef.com/wwen/english-resources/english-vocabulary/top-3000-words/): *periodically* isn't in that lot and really means *regularly*, also same as *routine* iiuc) - Present key benefit in the first sentence: Compact improves performance of user's mail folders (*mail folders* is something users know, and they will certainly like better *performance*!) - Make it explicit that even though we're recovering disk space, we're not touching existing messages - "check the box" - plain and simple - Dialog UX best practice: Dialog should work without reading the small print, buttons should convey their action in a self-contained way. - `Proceed` isn't a clearly defined action; `Compact now` is, and that's what's going to happen (regardless of the checkbox value). We should make that clear, because compacting is an interruption which takes time - maybe we should even make that explicit in a friendly and harmless way? - `Do not ask me in the future`: perhaps not clear enough without the smallprint. This might be misunderstood as "I don't want to be bothered with compact - opt out and stop compacting for good", especially when it's just `Proceed` after that. It's really about `Compact folders automatically...`, but even automatical compacting might still ask. Hence I've phrased the checkbox text deliberately explicit for the avoidance of doubt. EDIT: on second thoughts, maybe we could skip "...without asking me" (which is already in the small print) to remain with `▢ Compact folders automatically in the future`.
(In reply to Wayne Mery (:wsmwk) from comment #76) > Below is an initial proposal to UX. It is a combination of many of your suggestions. "remind me later" wording comes from aleca. [snip] Thomas, aleca, please weigh in Thanks Wayne for facing the beast here! This looks very promising and it's going in the right direction. I like the non-complex, less technical, positive sound of it. I've been reflecting on this after a good look at the history, and I'd suggest some minor modifications based on Wayne's great initial proposal. --- **Compact Folders** Thunderbird needs to do regular file maintenance to improve the performance of your mail folders. This will recover 123 MB of disk space without changing your messages. To let Thunderbird do this automatically in the future without asking you, check the box below before choosing ‘Compact now’. For more information, see the <help article on compacting>. ▢ Compact folders automatically in the future without asking me `Compact now` `Remind me later` --- - Reshuffle and shorten Wayne's first two sentences - Simplify the language even more to sound less abstract and technical (also try to stick with [the top 3000 words of English](https://www.ef.com/wwen/english-resources/english-vocabulary/top-3000-words/): *periodically* isn't in that lot and really means *regularly*, also same as *routine* iiuc) - Present key benefit in the first sentence: Compact improves performance of user's mail folders (*mail folders* is something users know, and they will certainly like better *performance*!) - Make it explicit that even though we're recovering disk space, we're not touching existing messages - "check the box" - plain and simple - Dialog UX best practice: Dialog should work without reading the small print, buttons/options should convey their action in a self-contained way. - `Proceed` isn't a clearly defined action; `Compact now` is, and that's what's going to happen (regardless of the checkbox value). We should make that clear, because compacting is an interruption which takes time - maybe we should even make that explicit in a friendly and harmless way? - `Do not ask me in the future`: perhaps not clear enough without the smallprint. This might be misunderstood as "I don't want to be bothered with compact - opt out and stop compacting for good", especially when it's just `Proceed` after that. It's really about `Compact folders automatically...`, but even automatical compacting might still ask. Hence I've phrased the checkbox text deliberately explicit for the avoidance of doubt. EDIT: on second thoughts, maybe we could skip "...without asking me" (which is already in the small print) to remain with `▢ Compact folders automatically in the future`.
(In reply to Wayne Mery (:wsmwk) from comment #76) > Below is an initial proposal to UX. It is a combination of many of your suggestions. "remind me later" wording comes from aleca. [snip] Thomas, aleca, please weigh in Thanks Wayne for facing the beast here! This looks very promising and it's going in the right direction. I like the non-complex, less technical, positive sound of it. I've been reflecting on this after a good look at the history, and I'd suggest some minor modifications based on Wayne's great initial proposal. --- **Compact Folders** Thunderbird needs to do regular file maintenance to improve the performance of your mail folders. This will recover 123 MB of disk space without changing your messages. To let Thunderbird do this automatically in the future without asking you, check the box below before choosing ‘Compact now’. For more information, see the <help article on compacting>. ▢ Compact folders automatically in the future without asking me `Compact now` `Remind me later` --- - Reshuffle and shorten Wayne's first two sentences - Simplify the language even more to sound less abstract and technical (also try to stick with [the top 3000 words of English](https://www.ef.com/wwen/english-resources/english-vocabulary/top-3000-words/): *periodically* isn't in that lot and really means *regularly*, also same as *routine* iiuc) - Present key benefit in the first sentence: Compact improves performance of user's mail folders (*mail folders* is something users know, and they will certainly like better *performance*!) - Make it explicit that even though we're recovering disk space, we're not touching existing messages - "check the box" - plain and simple - Dialog UX best practice: Dialog should work without reading the small print, buttons/options should convey their action in a self-contained way. - `Proceed` isn't a clearly defined action; `Compact now` is, and that's what's going to happen (regardless of the checkbox value). We should make that clear, because compacting is an interruption which takes time - maybe we should even make that explicit in a friendly and harmless way? - `Do not ask me in the future`: perhaps not clear enough without the smallprint. This might be misunderstood as "I don't want to be bothered with compact - opt out and stop compacting for good", especially when it's just `Proceed` after that. It's really about `Compact folders automatically...`, but even automatical compacting might still ask. Also, our default is a double negative: *Not* `Do not ask...`. Hence I've phrased the checkbox text deliberately explicit for the avoidance of doubt. EDIT: on second thoughts, maybe we could skip "...without asking me" (which is already in the small print) to remain with `▢ Compact folders automatically in the future`.
(In reply to Wayne Mery (:wsmwk) from comment #76) > Below is an initial proposal to UX. It is a combination of many of your suggestions. "remind me later" wording comes from aleca. [snip] Thomas, aleca, please weigh in Thanks Wayne for facing the beast here! This looks very promising and it's going in the right direction. I like the non-complex, less technical, positive sound of it. I've been reflecting on this after a good look at the history, and I'd suggest some minor modifications based on Wayne's great initial proposal. --- **Compact Folders** Thunderbird needs to do regular file maintenance to improve the performance of your mail folders. This will recover 123 MB of disk space without changing your messages. To let Thunderbird do this automatically in the future without asking you, check the box below before choosing ‘Compact now’. For more information, see the <help article on compacting>. ▢ Compact folders automatically in the future without asking me `Compact now` `Remind me later` --- - Reshuffle and shorten Wayne's first two sentences - Simplify the language even more to sound less abstract and technical (also try to stick with [the top 3000 words of English](https://www.ef.com/wwen/english-resources/english-vocabulary/top-3000-words/): *periodically* isn't in that lot and really means *regularly*, also same as *routine* iiuc) - Present key benefit in the first sentence: Compact improves performance of user's mail folders (*mail folders* is something users know, and they will certainly like better *performance*!) - Make it explicit that even though we're recovering disk space, we're not touching existing messages - "check the box" - plain and simple - Dialog UX best practice: Dialog should work without reading the small print, buttons/options should convey their action in a self-contained way. - `Proceed` isn't a clearly defined action; `Compact now` is, and that's what's going to happen (regardless of the checkbox value). We should make that clear, because compacting is an interruption which takes time - maybe we should even make that explicit in a friendly and harmless way? - `Do not ask me in the future`: perhaps not clear enough without the smallprint. This might be misunderstood as "I don't want to be bothered with compact - opt out and stop compacting for good", especially when it's just `Proceed` after that. It's really about `Compact folders automatically...`, but even automatical compacting might still ask. Also, our current default is a double negative: *Not* `Do not ask...`. Hence I've phrased the checkbox text deliberately explicit for the avoidance of doubt. EDIT: on second thoughts, maybe we could skip "...without asking me" (which is already in the small print) to remain with `▢ Compact folders automatically in the future`.
(In reply to Wayne Mery (:wsmwk) from comment #76) > Below is an initial proposal to UX. It is a combination of many of your suggestions. "remind me later" wording comes from aleca. [snip] Thomas, aleca, please weigh in Thanks Wayne for facing the beast here! This looks very promising and it's going in the right direction. I like the non-complex, less technical, positive sound of it. I've been reflecting on this after a good look at the history, and I'd suggest some minor modifications based on Wayne's great initial proposal. --- **Compact Folders** Thunderbird needs to do regular file maintenance to improve the performance of your mail folders. This will recover 123 MB of disk space without changing your messages. To let Thunderbird do this automatically in the future without asking you, check the box below before choosing ‘Compact now’. For more information, see the <help article on compacting>. ▢ Compact folders automatically in the future without asking me `Compact now` `Remind me later` --- - Reshuffle and shorten Wayne's first two sentences - Simplify the language even more to sound less abstract and technical (also try to stick with [the top 3000 words of English](https://www.ef.com/wwen/english-resources/english-vocabulary/top-3000-words/): *periodically* isn't in that lot and really means *regularly*, also same as *routine* iiuc) - Present key benefit in the first sentence: Compact improves performance of user's mail folders (*mail folders* is something users know, and they will certainly like better *performance*!) - Make it explicit that even though we're recovering disk space, we're not touching existing messages - "check the box" - plain and simple - Dialog UX best practice: Dialog should work without reading the small print, buttons/options should convey their action in a self-contained way. - `Proceed` isn't a clearly defined action; `Compact now` is, and that's what's going to happen (regardless of the checkbox value). We should make that clear, because compacting is an interruption which takes time - maybe we should even make that explicit in a friendly and harmless way? - `Do not ask me in the future`: perhaps not clear enough without the smallprint. This might be misunderstood as "I don't want to be bothered with compact - opt out and stop compacting for good", especially when it's just `Proceed` after that. It's really about `Compact folders automatically...`, but even automatical compacting might still ask. Also, our current default is a double negative: *Not* `Do not ask...`. Hence I've phrased the checkbox text as a positive and deliberately explicit for the avoidance of doubt. EDIT: on second thoughts, maybe we could skip "...without asking me" (which is already in the small print) to remain with `▢ Compact folders automatically in the future`.
(In reply to Wayne Mery (:wsmwk) from comment #76) > Below is an initial proposal to UX. It is a combination of many of your suggestions. "remind me later" wording comes from aleca. [snip] Thomas, aleca, please weigh in Thanks Wayne for facing the beast here! This looks very promising and it's going in the right direction. I like the non-complex, less technical, positive sound of it. I've been reflecting on this after a good look at the history, and I'd suggest some minor modifications based on Wayne's great initial proposal. --- **Compact Folders** Thunderbird needs to do regular file maintenance to improve the performance of your mail folders. This will recover 123 MB of disk space without changing your messages. To let Thunderbird do this automatically in the future without asking you, check the box below before choosing ‘Compact now’. For more information, see the <help article on compacting>. ▢ Compact folders automatically in the future without asking me `Compact now` `Remind me later` --- - Reshuffle and shorten Wayne's first two sentences into one - Simplify the language even more to sound less abstract and technical (also try to stick with [the top 3000 words of English](https://www.ef.com/wwen/english-resources/english-vocabulary/top-3000-words/): *periodically* isn't in that lot and really means *regularly*, also same as *routine* iiuc) - Present key benefit in the first sentence: Compact improves performance of user's mail folders (*mail folders* is something users know, and they will certainly like better *performance*!) - Make it explicit that even though we're recovering disk space, we're not touching existing messages - "check the box" - plain and simple - Dialog UX best practice: Dialog should work without reading the small print, buttons/options should convey their action in a self-contained way. - `Proceed` isn't a clearly defined action; `Compact now` is, and that's what's going to happen (regardless of the checkbox value). We should make that clear, because compacting is an interruption which takes time - maybe we should even make that explicit in a friendly and harmless way? - `Do not ask me in the future`: perhaps not clear enough without the smallprint. This might be misunderstood as "I don't want to be bothered with compact - opt out and stop compacting for good", especially when it's just `Proceed` after that. It's really about `Compact folders automatically...`, but even automatical compacting might still ask. Also, our current default is a double negative: *Not* `Do not ask...`. Hence I've phrased the checkbox text as a positive and deliberately explicit for the avoidance of doubt. EDIT: on second thoughts, maybe we could skip "...without asking me" (which is already in the small print) to remain with `▢ Compact folders automatically in the future`.
(In reply to Wayne Mery (:wsmwk) from comment #76) > Below is an initial proposal to UX. It is a combination of many of your suggestions. "remind me later" wording comes from aleca. [snip] Thomas, aleca, please weigh in Thanks Wayne for facing the beast here! This looks very promising and it's going in the right direction. I like the non-complex, less technical, positive sound of it. I've been reflecting on this after a good look at the history, and I'd suggest some minor modifications based on Wayne's great initial proposal. --- **Compact Folders** Thunderbird needs to do regular file maintenance to improve the performance of your mail folders. This will recover 123 MB of disk space without changing your messages. To let Thunderbird do this automatically in the future without asking you, check the box below before choosing ‘Compact now’. For more information, see the <help article on compacting>. ▢ Compact folders automatically in the future ~without asking me~ `Compact now` `Remind me later` --- - Reshuffle and shorten Wayne's first two sentences into one - Simplify the language even more to sound less abstract and technical (also try to stick with [the top 3000 words of English](https://www.ef.com/wwen/english-resources/english-vocabulary/top-3000-words/): *periodically* isn't in that lot and really means *regularly*, also same as *routine* iiuc) - Present key benefit in the first sentence: Compact improves performance of user's mail folders (*mail folders* is something users know, and they will certainly like better *performance*!) - Make it explicit that even though we're recovering disk space, we're not touching existing messages - "check the box" - plain and simple - Dialog UX best practice: Dialog should work without reading the small print, buttons/options should convey their action in a self-contained way. - `Proceed` isn't a clearly defined action; `Compact now` is, and that's what's going to happen (regardless of the checkbox value). We should make that clear, because compacting is an interruption which takes time - maybe we should even make that explicit in a friendly and harmless way? - `Do not ask me in the future`: perhaps not clear enough without the smallprint. This might be misunderstood as "I don't want to be bothered with compact - opt out and stop compacting for good", especially when it's just `Proceed` after that. It's really about `Compact folders automatically...`, but even automatical compacting might still ask. Also, our current default is a double negative: *Not* `Do not ask...`. Hence I've phrased the checkbox text as a positive and deliberately explicit for the avoidance of doubt. EDIT: on second thoughts, maybe we could skip "...without asking me" (which is already in the small print) to remain with `▢ Compact folders automatically in the future`.
(In reply to Wayne Mery (:wsmwk) from comment #76) > Below is an initial proposal to UX. It is a combination of many of your suggestions. "remind me later" wording comes from aleca. [snip] Thomas, aleca, please weigh in Thanks Wayne for facing the beast here! This looks very promising and it's going in the right direction. I like the non-complex, less technical, positive sound of it. I've been reflecting on this after a good look at the history, and I'd suggest some minor modifications based on Wayne's great initial proposal. --- **Compact Folders** Thunderbird needs to do regular file maintenance to improve the performance of your mail folders. This will recover 123 MB of disk space without changing your messages. To let Thunderbird do this automatically in the future without asking ~you~, check the box below before choosing ‘Compact now’. For more information, see the <help article on compacting>. ▢ Compact folders automatically in the future ~without asking me~ `Compact now` `Remind me later` --- - Reshuffle and shorten Wayne's first two sentences into one - Simplify the language even more to sound less abstract and technical (also try to stick with [the top 3000 words of English](https://www.ef.com/wwen/english-resources/english-vocabulary/top-3000-words/): *periodically* isn't in that lot and really means *regularly*, also same as *routine* iiuc) - Present key benefit in the first sentence: Compact improves performance of user's mail folders (*mail folders* is something users know, and they will certainly like better *performance*!) - Make it explicit that even though we're recovering disk space, we're not touching existing messages - "check the box" - plain and simple - Dialog UX best practice: Dialog should work without reading the small print, buttons/options should convey their action in a self-contained way. - `Proceed` isn't a clearly defined action; `Compact now` is, and that's what's going to happen (regardless of the checkbox value). We should make that clear, because compacting is an interruption which takes time - maybe we should even make that explicit in a friendly and harmless way? - `Do not ask me in the future`: perhaps not clear enough without the smallprint. This might be misunderstood as "I don't want to be bothered with compact - opt out and stop compacting for good", especially when it's just `Proceed` after that. It's really about `Compact folders automatically...`, but even automatical compacting might still ask. Also, our current default is a double negative: *Not* `Do not ask...`. Hence I've phrased the checkbox text as a positive and deliberately explicit for the avoidance of doubt. EDIT: on second thoughts, maybe we could skip "...without asking me" (which is already in the small print) to remain with `▢ Compact folders automatically in the future`.