1228920 - SeaMonkey Help: 'Privatsphären-Funktionen verwenden → Datenschutz & Sicherheit' - Validierung-link leads to nowhere, "validation_help.xhtml" not included into build

Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX

(Mozilla Localizations :: de / German, defect)

Description

[Rainer Bielefeld]

This one is a follow up of "Bug 1192623 - Help: 'Privatsphären-Funktionen verwenden → Datenschutz & Sicherheit' incomplete".

Steps how to reproduce with SeaMonkey German 2.39 final Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:42.0 from official download area)  Gecko/20100101  Firefox/42.0  Build 20151103191810  (Classic Theme) on German WIN7 64bit:

1. Launch Browser
2. Menu '(Hilfe – Hilfe-Inhalt (Help  → contents)
3. In table of contents pane nearby bottom click
   'Privatsphären-Funktonen verwenden → Datenschutz & Sicherheit' 
   ('Using Privacy Features  → Privacy & Security Preferences)
4. on found page in grey box click "Validierung"
   Expected: page with help contents opens
   Actual: "Datei nicht gefunden. 
   Die Datei chrome://communicator/locale/help/validation_help.xhtml 
   konnte nicht gefunden werden.

Comment 1

[Rainer Bielefeld]

Additional info:

a) English grey contents box looks very different, no "Validation" item!

Comment 2

[Rainer Bielefeld]

b) Spanish help also seems ok, so might only affect German Help
d) I don't know. Is "Steuerung der Validierung" an appropriate link target 
   or
   should that item be removed?

@Batchu Venkat Vishal:
Can you hlep again?

Comment 3

[Batchu Venkat Vishal]

@Rainer Bielefeld, The link seems to point to "using_certs_help.xhtml#controlling_validation".

Regarding d, The files using_certs_help.xhtml has a tag corresponding to controlling_validation (On line 541), so I think this is an appropriate link target.

I'll try find the place where the link is being called, since the file does exist in the source, so not quite sure what the error is.

Comment 4

[Rainer Bielefeld]

(In reply to Batchu Venkat Vishal from comment #3)
Great!
May be you should additionally keep in mid these <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=SMHelp&sharer_id=41036> current Help Bugs, you might stumble upon solution for one of them while you are doing research for this one.

Comment 5

[Rainer Bielefeld]

(In reply to Batchu Venkat Vishal from comment #3)
Still worked fine with DE  SeaMonkey 2.5  (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0.1)  Gecko/20111121  Firefox/8.0.1   Build 20111121045514  (Classic Theme) on German WIN7 64bit from <http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/2.5/win32/de/seamonkey-2.5.zip>, it might help to find out how that worked there?

Comment 6

[Batchu Venkat Vishal]

@Rainer Bielefeld, Sure Ill take a look at this in the evening today. (Last exam ends today)

Comment 7

[Batchu Venkat Vishal]

(In reply to Rainer Bielefeld from comment #5)
> (In reply to Batchu Venkat Vishal from comment #3)
> Still worked fine with DE  SeaMonkey 2.5  (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0.1) 
> Gecko/20111121  Firefox/8.0.1   Build 20111121045514  (Classic Theme) on
> German WIN7 64bit from
> <http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/2.5/win32/de/
> seamonkey-2.5.zip>, it might help to find out how that worked there?

Did it work with the link you provided? I was unable to find this file in there "validation_help.xhtml". Any ideas why?

Comment 8

[Batchu Venkat Vishal]

(In reply to Rainer Bielefeld from comment #5)

1 more things, How can I run and test this myself? I have the comm-central source and I have built seamonkey but its the english version, how can I get it to work for DE?

Comment 9

[Rainer Bielefeld]

Attachment: DE Help Contents: Einstellungen für Validierung (from SM 2.5)

I attache help contents from SM 2.5, what might help to find out where and when that contents has been lost.

(In reply to Batchu Venkat Vishal from comment #7)
> I was unable to find this file in

Did you check in SeaMonkey 2.5 Source? My assumption is that that file has been lost or may be the contents has been moved to a different file and so "validation_help.xhtml" might have been removed intentionally, but link has not been adapted? May be you can search DE-Trunk source code for some strings you find in 2.5 "validation_help.xhtml"? Or simply try what happens if you add "validation_help.xhtml" again? 

I have no skills in source code investigation

Comment 10

[Batchu Venkat Vishal]

I checked the source and the file is present. Could you tell me how I can run and reproduce this bug?

Comment 11

[Batchu Venkat Vishal]

I mean, I am unable to run seamonkey DE, I am using Ubuntu.

Comment 12

[Rainer Bielefeld]

From time to time I test English SeaMonkey 2.42a1  (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0)  Gecko/20100101 Firefox/45.0 Build 20151103003001  (Classic Theme) on VirtualBox Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, I'm not a Linux expert.

I unzipped SM 2.5 for seamoneky, but it seems there is no "seamonkey" executable?

I already asked for help at <de.comm.software.mozilla.misc>, will also ask at <mozilla.support.seamonkey>, <mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey>

Comment 13

[Frank-Rainer Grahl (:frg)]

Attachment: seamonkey.jpg

I downloaded Seamonkey 2.5 from

http://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.5/linux-i686/de/seamonkey-2.5.tar.bz2

und just unpacked it to /opt/seamonkey. It still runs ok in Kubuntu 14.04. 

Link works. See screenshot to where it leads. What exactly do you need to know?

Comment 14

[Batchu Venkat Vishal]

I unzipped the seamonkey folder to /opt and then I ran /opt/seamonkey/seamonkey but it gives me this error, ./seamonkey-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libdbus-glib-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

Comment 15

[Frank-Rainer Grahl (:frg)]

This seems to come from:

https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus-glib

See if you can find a libdbus-glib.1.so.4 or so. If you find it create a symbolic link to it in the seamonkey directory with the name libdbus-glib-1.so.2 and run ldconfig afterwards.

This might not work if the interfaces changed too much but I had some success in it in the past. 

If it doesn't work you might want to install virtualbox or use another virtualizer to create a virtual machine with an older Linux still contaning the old libs.

Comment 16

[Batchu Venkat Vishal]

When I try to use a virtual box running ubuntu 12 I get an error saying 
"./run-mozilla.sh: 141: exec: ./seamonkey-bin not found",
when I run ./seamonkey

Comment 17

[Adrian Kalla [:adriank]]

If you are using 64bit Ubuntu: you need to either have the missing libraries in their 32bit versions or use the 64bit SeaMonkey from here https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.5/contrib/seamonkey-2.5.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2 with the German langpack from here https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.5/langpack/seamonkey-2.5.de.langpack.xpi

(In reply to Frank-Rainer Grahl from comment #13)
> Created attachment 8696222 [details]
> seamonkey.jpg
> 
> I downloaded Seamonkey 2.5 from
> 
> http://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.5/linux-i686/de/
> seamonkey-2.5.tar.bz2
> 
> und just unpacked it to /opt/seamonkey. It still runs ok in Kubuntu 14.04. 

Confirming: runs without any startup-problems on Kubuntu 14.04 64bit

Comment 18

[Frank-Rainer Grahl (:frg)]

Sorry forgot the architecture. 

Confirming: runs without any startup-problems on Kubuntu 14.04 x86 too.

The 32 bit library versions are usually in the lib not lib64 directories if you need to create a link for one on a 64 bit linux. If you just want to do some testing with the official versions which are all x86 I recommend a x86 VM. Smaller memory and disk footprint and not that picky when it comes to bad VT-x implementations on the host.

Comment 19

[Rainer Bielefeld]

I simply downloaded German Langpacks from
<https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.39/langpack/>
<https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.5/langpack/>
and unzipped both

As expected result is:
seamonkey-2.5.de.langpack.xpi  DOES contain validation_help.xhtml 
seamonkey-2.39.de.langpack.xpi does NOT contain validation_help.xhtml 

10. The Help contents from Description step 3 you find in privsec_help.xhtml
11. If you click “Validierung” in 2.5 file system the  link will
    open expected contents
12. If you click “Validierung” in 2.39 file system the link will will cause
    an error message “not found”
13. After copy/paste of 2.5  “validation_help.xhtml” to 2.39
    (\chrome\de\locale\de\communicator\help) Step 12 will lead to expected
    contents.

So a simple adddition of “validation_help.xhtml” to German Language Pack (and native DE SeaMonkey) might heal the problem?
In a second step we will have to check whether German Version contains errors in contents.

Comment 20

[Batchu Venkat Vishal]

@Rainer Bielefeld, yeah that seems to fix up the problem. This should also resolve some other issues, 
#1229655 
#1229653

I would like to set up a patch if its fine with you, can you point me to the source of the language pack and the native version of seamonkey (DE), wasn't able to find it on archive.mozilla.org.

Comment 21

[Frank-Rainer Grahl (:frg)]

The files are in the de l10n-central repository. No separate Seamonkey repository:

http://hg.mozilla.org/l10n-central/de

While this might work the en-us version has updated content. The de version should imho follow the structure of this one in the mid term.

If you want to fix another bug add the missing image from the en-us directory to the de repository:

\de\suite\chrome\common\help\images\mail_newmail_balloon.png

It's still missing and mozmake installer fails without it. I just copied it manually to my local repositories. I think there is already a bug for this somewhere if not it should be created.

Comment 22

[Batchu Venkat Vishal]

But the repository from the link you provided already has the validation_help.xhtml file, so does that mean this wont be an issue anymore?

I will search and make a new bug if it doesnt exist already for the mail_newmail_balloon.png.

Comment 23

[Frank-Rainer Grahl (:frg)]

I can't say that I am familiar with the l10n build system :) Maybe just the installer files are bad and ommiting it during builds.

FRG

Comment 24

[Batchu Venkat Vishal]

@Frank-Rainer Grahl , where should I include this de folder while running the build? Should the suite folder contents be included in the suite folder of seamonkey (where en-US is) under a folder de? And once this is done do I just normally run mozmake to check if the build fails?

Comment 25

[Frank-Rainer Grahl (:frg)]

Attachment: .makex86de.zip

These are my Windows VS2013 x86 de build files. I am not sure if 

mk_add_options MOZ_CO_LOCALES="de"
ac_add_options --enable-ui-locale=de

are both needed. Documentation is sparse and I was too lazy to play around with them...

ac_add_options --with-l10n-base=c:/seamonkey/l10n/l10n-release is the base for the l10n files. The de is under it and just contains the l10n files.

The release tree will likely not build now because FF 43 has already been checked in but the l10n options should be the same for the other trees. The de tree does not contain dictionaries due to a license problem. The installer build barked about missing files and I just copied de.aff and de.dic from Libre Office into the tree instead of fixing the options. Not sure how they do it in real release builds. Can't help you with Linux builds but it should be more or less the same till the installer stage.

Comment 26

[Rainer Bielefeld]

ASSIGNED due to facts

Comment 27

[Sebastian Hengst [:aryx] (needinfo me if it's about an intermittent or backout)]

(In reply to Batchu Venkat Vishal from comment #24)
> @Frank-Rainer Grahl , where should I include this de folder while running
> the build? Should the suite folder contents be included in the suite folder
> of seamonkey (where en-US is) under a folder de? And once this is done do I
> just normally run mozmake to check if the build fails?
You can also build the English application and then repack it, see https://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Creating_a_Language_Pack

Comment 29

[Rainer Bielefeld]

Anything new here?

Comment 30

[Rainer Bielefeld]

Assignee seems to be no longer active

Comment 31

[Rainer Bielefeld]

For me still REPRODUCIBLE with Installation of official DE SeaMonkey 2.49.4  (NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 Build 20180713174829  (Default Classic Theme) on German WIN7 64bit and newly created test provile.

Comment 32

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

Sorry for the noise, but cleaning up old bugs. For SeaMonkey help, see
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1276703#c8