133054 - (hand) Implement Acrobat-like "Grab and drag" with hand-cursor aka grabber

Status: NEW

(SeaMonkey :: UI Design, enhancement)

Description

[Chibi15]

A "hand" tool would be very... handy and comformtable for scrolling webpages!
Its one of these "little things" i miss in Mozilla.

I will attach two screenshots showing this tool

Comment 1

[Chibi15]

Attachment: before scrolling

Comment 2

[Chibi15]

Attachment: page scrolling with the hand!

Comment 3

[Alex Bishop]

Duplicate of bug 22775?

Comment 4

[Chibi15]

No the hand is not the same as autoscrolling.
With the Hand-tool it is possible to "grab" the page and drag it around.
See my attachments for an expanation!

Comment 5

[timeless]

your pictures are *NOT* good explanations.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 63712 ***

Comment 6

[Chibi15]

I've added a new attachment about how the hand should work.

Comment 7

[Chibi15]

Attachment: Hand explained

This should explain how the hand should work

Comment 8

[Brian 'netdragon' Bober]

If you want to see an example of what he's talking about - see the hand on adobe
acrobat.

Comment 9

[Brian 'netdragon' Bober]

BTW - the behavior he is asking for is different than autoscroll/panning.

Comment 10

[Ben Ruppel]

Brian: I'm sorry, but could you explain how the "hand" in acrobat is different
from the panning portion of your autoscroll work you were working on
implementing?  I've been following these bugs for a while, and I was under the
impression that the behavior was the same.  I thought that with your plan,
holding down the middle button would result in panning behavior much like the
hand in acrobat, while clicking the button would result in placement of the
artifact thingy for autoscroll...

Comment 11

[Brian 'netdragon' Bober]

Holding down the middle mouse button will allow you to scroll the page without 
using the scrollbar directly. It will act much like you are actually in the 
scrollbar, but will allow vertical and horizontal scrolling much like you are 
in a 2d scrollbar:

+---------------+
|               |
|               |
|       X       |
|               |
|               |
+---------------+

The 2d "scrollbar" would be the visual containing box.

Therefore, the hand could be implemented with a middle click and modifier key 
(or prefs), but it isn't the same behavior. The hand allows you in Adobe to 
only drag the page a short distance, while this behavior would allow you to 
scroll anywhere in the page rather quickly.

Comment 12

[Jesse Ruderman]

*** Bug 144910 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 13

[Brian 'netdragon' Bober]

This is not a dupe, and as such... I had trouble finding it when I needed to 
find it.

I am going to also cover this with http://mozscroll.mozdev.org/ along with bug 
22775 and bug 63712.

Comment 14

[Brian 'netdragon' Bober]

I'm taking this as I don't believe mpt is going to implement it and I'm 
putting it into mozscroll.mozdev.org.

Comment 15

[Brian 'netdragon' Bober]

This bug blocks 154779, which is about hand tool needed for Print Preview.

Comment 16

[Brian 'netdragon' Bober]

Sorry, I meant bug 154479.

Comment 17

[Brian 'netdragon' Bober]

Bug 174499 - How to Activate "grab and drag" is about how to activate this 
feature.
Also changed the summary, added an alias, and added the URL: 
http://mozscroll.mozdev.org/

Comment 18

[Chris Thomas (CTho) [formerly [e-mail] [e-mail]]]

I'm in favor of WONTFIX.  Given the scrolling methods autoscroll makes
available, this becomes almost-redundant.

Comment 19

[Wayne Mery (:wsmwk)]

removing dependencies

Comment 20

[Wayne Mery (:wsmwk)]

*** Bug 174499 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 21

[Wayne Mery (:wsmwk)]

*** Bug 60978 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***