Closed
Bug 164463
Opened 22 years ago
Closed 22 years ago
Menu and Dialog boxes should normally use WarpSans font
Categories
(SeaMonkey :: General, defect)
Tracking
(Not tracked)
RESOLVED
WORKSFORME
People
(Reporter: mozilla.org, Assigned: mkaply)
Details
Attachments
(5 files)
Helper Applications Preferences in WarpSans
As we know, the font rendered in OS/2 is abysmal. It's bad enough when the **** fonts are used on web pages, but there's little we can do about that. However, the Mozilla application itself should not be using these fonts, rather they should use the OS/2 system fonts. Specifically, WarpSans should be used for all the menus, dialog boxes, status window, and any text that's not part of the viewed web page. The font setting under Apperance->Fonts should only be used for rendering HTML, and nothing more. Seeing the menus and Times Roman is ridiculous when the rest of the OS uses WarpSans. In fact, I think this feature would be good for all operating systems.
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Comment 1•22 years ago
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see http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16729 and http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57488 reporter, what is your Mozilla build ID (version)? And what theme are you using?
My build is 2002081208, and I am using the Modern theme. I read the comments for those two bug reports, but I'm not sure what the resolution is. I get the feeling that some people thing using non-system fonts for the controls is a good idea, which is absurd. It may work for Windows, but it looks like **** on OS/2.
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Comment 3•22 years ago
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Sorry, but it doesn't work this way. It's up to the theme designer to decide what fonts to use in menus and dialogs and such. If they choose system fonts (as classic does) you get system fonts. If they choose to hardcode a system font, you get it. Period. If you want a different behavior, check out the file userChrome.css which allows you to override stuff.
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Comment 4•22 years ago
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Forgot to mark WONTFIX.
Status: UNCONFIRMED → RESOLVED
Closed: 22 years ago
Resolution: --- → WONTFIX
I don't understand. On Windows, the Modern them uses the standard system fonts (the same as all other apps) for menus and dialog boxes. But on OS/2, it uses whatever I specified in Edit->Preferences->Appearance->Fonts. Shouldn't OS/2 behave like Windows?
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Comment 6•22 years ago
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I think there is something wrong with your system. My Modern theme is using WarpSans just fine. What version of Mozilla are you using?
I just downloaded and did a clean install of 2002082608. As soon as I fire it up, the menus and dialog boxes are all in Times Roman, and that's with the Classic theme. I switched to the Modern theme, and the fonts are still Times Roman.
Ok, some information: The title bar uses the system font, but the menus underneath and the menus in the Personal Toolbar uses Times Roman. The Preferences dialog box is a mix of fonts. The left table-of-contents window uses WarpSans. However, the pages that appear when I select an entry will display sometimes in WarpSans, sometimes in Times Roman! It all depends on whether you click on the entry, or cursor-up or cursor-down to it from an adjacent entry. I'm going to attach some images to demonstrate.
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Comment 10•22 years ago
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Comment 11•22 years ago
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Oops, added CC: accidentally.
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Comment 12•22 years ago
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In this attachment, the Table Of Contents for the Preferences notebook is now in Times Roman. In the previous two, it was WarpSans.
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Comment 13•22 years ago
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Reopening so I can unassign Asa because he doesn't need more bugmail
Status: RESOLVED → UNCONFIRMED
Resolution: WONTFIX → ---
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Comment 14•22 years ago
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Something is totally hosed about your machine. I've no idea what.
Assignee: asa → mkaply
QA Contact: asa → mkaply
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Comment 15•22 years ago
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1) When did this start happening? Did you install anything else on your system that may have caused this? Did you recently install a new font? 2) I am going to attach a program (as a zip) called outputfonts. Run it and save the output to a text file and attach here. I want to see what fonts you have installed on your system.
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Comment 16•22 years ago
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Comment 17•22 years ago
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System Proportional : System Proportional : bitmap :
: : 0 :
: System Proportional : bitmap :
: : 0 :
: System Proportional : bitmap :
: : 0 :
: System Proportional : bitmap :
: : 0 :
: System Proportional : bitmap :
: : 0 :
: System Proportional Non-ISO : bitmap :
: : 0 :
: System Proportional Non-ISO : bitmap :
: : 0 :
: System Proportional Non-ISO : bitmap :
: : 0 :
WarpSans : WarpSans : bitmap :
: : 0 :
: WarpSans : bitmap :
: : 0 :
: WarpSans Bold : bitmap :
B : : 0 :
: WarpSans Bold : bitmap :
B : : 0 :
System VIO : System VIO : bitmap :
: : 0 :
: System VIO : bitmap :
: : 0 :
: System VIO : bitmap :
: : 0 :
: System VIO : bitmap :
: : 0 :
: System VIO : bitmap :
: : 0 :
: System VIO : bitmap :
: : 0 :
: System VIO : bitmap :
: : 0 :
: System VIO : bitmap :
: : 0 :
: System VIO : bitmap :
: : 0 :
: System VIO : bitmap :
: : 0 :
: System VIO : bitmap :
: : 0 :
: System VIO : bitmap :
: : 0 :
: System VIO : bitmap :
: : 0 :
: System VIO : bitmap :
: : 0 :
: System VIO : bitmap :
: : 0 :
: System VIO : bitmap :
: : 0 :
: System VIO : bitmap :
: : 0 :
Verdana : Verdana Bold Italic : vector :
B : I : 0 :
: Verdana Italic : vector :
: I : 0 :
: Verdana Bold : vector :
B : : 0 :
: Verdana : vector :
: : 0 :
Trebuchet MS : Trebuchet MS Italic : vector :
: I : 0 :
: Trebuchet MS Bold Italic : vector :
B : I : 0 :
: Trebuchet MS Bold : vector :
B : : 0 :
: Trebuchet MS : vector :
: : 0 :
Times New Roman : Times New Roman Italic : vector :
: I : 0 :
: Times New Roman Bold Italic : vector :
B : I : 0 :
: Times New Roman Bold : vector :
B : : 0 :
@Times New Roman : @Times New Roman Bold : vector :
B : : 0 :
Times New Roman : Times New Roman : vector :
: : 0 :
@Times New Roman : @Times New Roman : vector :
: : 0 :
Impact : Impact : vector :
: : 0 :
Georgia : Georgia Bold Italic : vector :
B : I : 0 :
: Georgia Italic : vector :
: I : 0 :
: Georgia Bold : vector :
B : : 0 :
: Georgia : vector :
: : 0 :
Courier New : Courier New Italic : vector :
: I : 0 :
: Courier New Bold Italic : vector :
B : I : 0 :
: Courier New Bold : vector :
B : : 0 :
@Courier New : @Courier New Bold : vector :
B : : 0 :
Courier New : Courier New : vector :
: : 0 :
@Courier New : @Courier New : vector :
: : 0 :
Comic Sans MS : Comic Sans MS Bold : vector :
B : : 0 :
: Comic Sans MS : vector :
: : 0 :
Arial Black : Arial Black : vector :
: : 0 :
Arial : Arial Italic : vector :
: I : 0 :
: Arial Bold : vector :
B : : 0 :
@Arial : @Arial Bold : vector :
B : : 0 :
Arial : Arial : vector :
: : 0 :
@Arial : @Arial : vector :
: : 0 :
Andale Mono : Andale Mono : vector :
: : 0 :
Arial : Arial Bold Italic : vector :
B : I : 0 :
Tms Rmn : Tms Rmn : bitmap :
: : 0 :
: Tms Rmn : bitmap :
: : 0 :
: Tms Rmn : bitmap :
: : 0 :
: Tms Rmn : bitmap :
: : 0 :
: Tms Rmn : bitmap :
: : 0 :
: Tms Rmn : bitmap :
: : 0 :
: Tms Rmn : bitmap :
: : 0 :
: Tms Rmn : bitmap :
: : 0 :
: Tms Rmn : bitmap :
: : 0 :
: Tms Rmn : bitmap :
: : 0 :
Helv : Helv : bitmap :
: : 0 :
: Helv : bitmap :
: : 0 :
: Helv : bitmap :
: : 0 :
: Helv : bitmap :
: : 0 :
: Helv : bitmap :
: : 0 :
: Helv : bitmap :
: : 0 :
: Helv : bitmap :
: : 0 :
: Helv : bitmap :
: : 0 :
: Helv : bitmap :
: : 0 :
: Helv : bitmap :
: : 0 :
Times New Roman : Times New Roman Italic : vector :
: I : 0 :
Roman : Tms Rmn Italic : vector :
: I : 0 :
Times New Roman : Times New Roman Bold Italic : vector :
B : I : 0 :
Roman : Tms Rmn Bold Italic : vector :
B : I : 0 :
Times New Roman : Times New Roman Bold : vector :
B : : 0 :
Roman : Tms Rmn Bold : vector :
B : : 0 :
Times New Roman : Times New Roman : vector :
: : 0 :
Roman : Tms Rmn : vector :
: : 0 :
Helvetica : Helvetica Italic : vector :
: I : 0 :
Swiss : Helv Italic : vector :
: I : 0 :
Helvetica : Helvetica Bold Italic : vector :
B : I : 0 :
Swiss : Helv Bold Italic : vector :
B : I : 0 :
Helvetica : Helvetica Bold : vector :
B : : 0 :
Swiss : Helv Bold : vector :
B : : 0 :
Helvetica : Helvetica : vector :
: : 0 :
Swiss : Helv : vector :
: : 0 :
Symbol Set : Symbol Set : vector :
: : 65400 :
Courier : Courier Italic : vector :
: I : 0 :
: Courier Bold Italic : vector :
B : I : 0 :
: Courier Bold : vector :
B : : 0 :
: Courier : vector :
: : 0 :
System Monospaced : System Monospaced : bitmap :
B : : 0 :
: System Monospaced : bitmap :
B : : 0 :
BTW, when I clicked on the outputfonts.zip link in the Attachements table above,
Mozilla insisted on downloading the file as "attachment.cgi". Here's the output
of wget on that URL:
[d:\install\outputfonts]wget
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=96852&action=view
--18:56:08-- http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=96852
=> `attachment.cgi%3Fid=96852'
Connecting to bugzilla.mozilla.org:80... connected!
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: unspecified [application/octet-stream]
17.85K done at 58.20K/s (av: 51.59K/s), 00:00:00
18:56:10 (63.83 KB/s) - `attachment.cgi%3Fid=96852' saved [22877]
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Comment 18•22 years ago
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For your entertainment, here's another screen shot of a pull-down menu with both fonts. This has to be a Mozilla bug, because I've never seen anything like it. Anyway, I'll try to get around to downloading the source code this weekend.
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Comment 19•22 years ago
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See http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=178280#c23 for a possible fix and/or workaround and/or clue to reproduction for this.
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Comment 20•22 years ago
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Timur, I just noticed something I hadn't before. Do you have your machine configured to use WarpSans as the menu font not WarpSans Bold (WarpSans Bold is the default on OS/2) Also, have you changed your DPI value in prefs at all?
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Comment 21•22 years ago
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timur, is this still a problem for you?
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Comment 22•22 years ago
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Yes, it is.
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Comment 23•22 years ago
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Per an IM conversation, Timur said he isn't seeing this with current builds. Please reopen if it continues.
Status: UNCONFIRMED → RESOLVED
Closed: 22 years ago → 22 years ago
Resolution: --- → WORKSFORME
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Comment 24•22 years ago
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Before someone verifies this, I'd like a clarification. I'd like to be able to use a higher resolution than 1024x768. The obstacle to this is the WarpSans font used by the system becomes too small at higher resolutions, and the highest Warp DPI possible (AFAIK) is 120. On windoze, DPI can be set to custom values if the listed resolutions (up to 192 DPI) prove unsuitable This makes Mozilla on windoze nice at 1600x1200 at 192 DPI. I know that userChrome.css can be used to customize Mozilla. I also know that the shortcomings of Warp's font system evaporate as resolution is increased. Therefore, use of WarpSans at high resolutions is actually unnecessary, and I'd like to know the specific selectors required in userChrome.css to provide suitable fonts at high resolution. As long as it is possible to use userChrome.css to override WarpSans, then before closing the summary of this bug should be changed as follows: s/should always use/should normally use/
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Comment 25•22 years ago
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Change subject to help searching. You can use userChrome.css to override all fonts. Also, WarpSans is only used if the user has that specified as their system font. If you use the Scheme Palette in OS/2 to change your fonts, it will change your fonts in Mozilla.
Summary: Menu and Dialog boxes should always use WarpSans font → Menu and Dialog boxes should normally use WarpSans font
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Comment 26•22 years ago
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Duh! Whoodathunk Warp would let me customize my system fonts? ;-) Actually, I know I can change chrome (and more) via userChrome.css. What I don't know is where to find the catalog of selectors required to create the desired effects. Is there something on a web page? http://www.mozilla.org/unix/customizing.html and userChrome-example.css provide only a sampling of some things that can be changed.
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Updated•20 years ago
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