Closed
Bug 206838
Opened 21 years ago
Closed 21 years ago
Mozilla rebranding (e.g. Messenger, not Mail & Newsgroups)
Categories
(SeaMonkey :: UI Design, defect)
Tracking
(Not tracked)
RESOLVED
WONTFIX
People
(Reporter: danielwang, Assigned: mikael)
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(3 files, 4 obsolete files)
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neil
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review+
jag+mozilla
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superreview+
asa
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approval1.6b+
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Details | Diff | Splinter Review |
sorry for open this bug this late in the beta phase, but before Mozilla 1.4 finally arrives we should get the record straight. The Windows menu and Preferences dialog still refers to the mail client as "Mail & Newsgroup," but it should be Messenger according to the Mozilla Branding Strategy. We need to change the wording for: Windows menu Quick Launch context menu Preference dialog chrome://messenger/locale/start.html Messenger Import dialog
Comment 1•21 years ago
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This could even be blocking 1.4f, couldn't it? Daniel, I guess it's your part to request this, since you're the reporter. Of course, only if you find this suitable.
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Comment 2•21 years ago
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This is my first patch posted to Mozilla, I hope I've done it right... I have changed "Mail & Newsgroups" to Messenger, but I did not change "Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings" since I thought it to be more easier to understand "Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings" insted of "Messenger Account Settings". But I will gladly change these also if the community so wishes
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Comment 3•21 years ago
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-> XP Apps
Assignee: asa → jag
Component: Browser-General → XP Apps
QA Contact: general → pawyskoczka
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Updated•21 years ago
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Attachment #134345 -
Flags: review?(neil.parkwaycc.co.uk)
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Updated•21 years ago
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Attachment #134345 -
Flags: superreview?(bienvenu)
Comment 4•21 years ago
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I'm not sure what the party line is on this, especially with thunderbird, etc. I personally think mail & newsgroup account settings is most clear for the user.
david: the Window menu has "Navigator" in seamonkey, not "Browser", so we should use "Messenger" in seamonkey. Thunderbird is welcome to do something else. arne.anka@stupido.com: would you change it to "Account Settings"? the extra branding adds no value, although it does manage to make the menu wider.
Assignee: jag → arne.anka
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Comment 6•21 years ago
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Since i made the last patch, a number of the help files (that I also patched) have been copied to .xhtml (se bug 95770). The new patch does not include patching help files (since there is some major rewriting going on in bug 95770)
Attachment #134345 -
Attachment is obsolete: true
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Comment 7•21 years ago
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-<!ENTITY generalSettings.label "General Settings"> +<!ENTITY generalSettings.label "General Messenger Settings"> we should keep the original label. -<!ENTITY enbJsCheckMailNews.label "Enable JavaScript for Mail and News"> +<!ENTITY enbJsCheckMailNews.label "Enable JavaScript for Messenger"> I think we can break rule here. Enable JS for Mail and News is more user friendly.
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Comment 8•21 years ago
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changes from comment #7
Attachment #135008 -
Attachment is obsolete: true
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Comment 9•21 years ago
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Comment on attachment 135072 [details] [diff] [review] New patch -<!ENTITY enbJsCheckMailNews.label "Mail & Newsgroups"> +<!ENTITY enbJsCheckMailNews.label "Messenger"> <!ENTITY enbJsCheckMailNews.accesskey "m"> -<!ENTITY enbPluginCheckMailNews.label "Mail & Newsgroups"> +<!ENTITY enbPluginCheckMailNews.label "Messenger"> These could also be unchanged.
Attachment #135072 -
Flags: superreview?(bienvenu)
Attachment #135072 -
Flags: review?(neil.parkwaycc.co.uk)
Updated•21 years ago
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Comment 10•21 years ago
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Comment on attachment 135072 [details] [diff] [review] New patch >-<!ENTITY disableCookieForMailNews.label "Disable cookies in Mail & Newsgroups"> >+<!ENTITY disableCookieForMailNews.label "Disable cookies in Messenger"> I'd prefer "Disable cookies in email and news messages" here. >-<!ENTITY disableImageInMailNews.label "Do not load remote images in Mail & Newsgroup messages"> >+<!ENTITY disableImageInMailNews.label "Do not load remote images in Messenger messages"> Again, I'd prefer "... email and news messages", or just "... mail and news messages" if you prefer. I don't have a problem with enbJsCheckMailNews.label or enbPluginCheckMailNews.label though.
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Comment 11•21 years ago
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>I'd prefer "Disable cookies in email and news messages" here.
nitty picky. I prefer "mail and news messages"
Comment 12•21 years ago
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I downloaded mozilla-win32-installer.exe and noticed that the installer also says Mail & Newsgroups instead of Messenger. This needs to be changed too.
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Comment 13•21 years ago
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Removed en-GB & en-DE from this patch since they need cleaning.
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Updated•21 years ago
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Attachment #135072 -
Attachment is obsolete: true
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Comment 14•21 years ago
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Comment 15•21 years ago
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I prefer this (the patch does this)
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Updated•21 years ago
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Attachment #135547 -
Flags: superreview?(bienvenu)
Attachment #135547 -
Flags: review?(neil.parkwaycc.co.uk)
Comment 16•21 years ago
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Comment on attachment 135547 [details] [diff] [review] patch Good catch on the plugin access key. >-<!ENTITY enableMapi.label "Use &vendorShortName; Mail as the default mail application"> >+<!ENTITY enableMapi.label "Use Messenger as the default mail application"> Why did you remove the &vendorShortName; ?
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Comment 17•21 years ago
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comment #16: I diffed wrong version oops new one comment?
Attachment #135547 -
Attachment is obsolete: true
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Comment 18•21 years ago
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Comment on attachment 135826 [details] [diff] [review] patch This is good stuff. Neil, any chance of getting this long overdue change in?
Attachment #135826 -
Flags: review?(neil.parkwaycc.co.uk)
Updated•21 years ago
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Attachment #135826 -
Flags: review?(neil.parkwaycc.co.uk) → review+
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Updated•21 years ago
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Attachment #135826 -
Flags: superreview?(jag)
Comment 19•21 years ago
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Comment on attachment 135826 [details] [diff] [review] patch sr=jag
Attachment #135826 -
Flags: superreview?(jag) → superreview+
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Comment 20•21 years ago
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Comment on attachment 135826 [details] [diff] [review] patch request a= for 1.6b. low risk, only textual changes (and one access-key) - biggest problem is documentation out of sync
Attachment #135826 -
Flags: approval1.6b?
Comment 21•21 years ago
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Comment on attachment 135826 [details] [diff] [review] patch a=asa (on behalf of drivers) for checkin to 1.6beta
Attachment #135826 -
Flags: approval1.6b? → approval1.6b+
Comment 23•21 years ago
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Fix checked in. Daniel, do you have some time to update the Help documentation? I'm not sure if I'll get to it or not. BTW, I'd like documentation changes to go in a separate bug.
Status: ASSIGNED → RESOLVED
Closed: 21 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED
Comment 24•21 years ago
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Comment on attachment 135547 [details] [diff] [review] patch Patch is obsolete.
Attachment #135547 -
Flags: superreview?(bienvenu)
Attachment #135547 -
Flags: review?(neil.parkwaycc.co.uk)
Comment 25•21 years ago
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Comment on attachment 135072 [details] [diff] [review] New patch Patch is obsolete.
Attachment #135072 -
Flags: superreview?(bienvenu)
Attachment #135072 -
Flags: review?(neil.parkwaycc.co.uk)
Comment 26•21 years ago
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Comment on attachment 134345 [details] [diff] [review] Proposed patch Patch is obsolete.
Attachment #134345 -
Flags: superreview?(bienvenu)
Attachment #134345 -
Flags: review?(neil.parkwaycc.co.uk)
Comment 27•21 years ago
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Where was the module owner approval on this branding change? I don't see any input from David, Seth or myself here. Unfortunately this change is bogus and not correct. We do not brand ourselves as Mozilla Messenger. That branding document is still under discussion and we have no plans of using the messenger name. We need to back this out. I'll talk to Asa
Comment 28•21 years ago
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Personally I find Messenger a name easy to confuse with Microsoft application. Maybe it should have been different.
Comment 29•21 years ago
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Reopening based on comment 27.
Status: RESOLVED → REOPENED
Resolution: FIXED → ---
Comment 30•21 years ago
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The patch is checked in. Should I back it out since 1.6b is coming soon?
Comment 31•21 years ago
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oh. nevermind. already backed out! sorry for the spam!
Comment 32•21 years ago
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I personally think that "Mail & Newsgroups" as *name* is confusing. It makes help texts read "Mail & Newsgroups formats your message as ...", making it sound (to me) as if the mail standard does it, while it's merely our application which does it. However, other vendors want to choose even different names than "Mail & Newsgroups" or "Messenger", that's why this bug should be fixed by fixing bug 84851.
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Comment 33•21 years ago
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wontfix The branding doc is way obsolete, and "messenger" is a confusing name. Let bug 84851 fix the issue about Mail & Newsgroups, Nesgroups, and Mail
Status: REOPENED → RESOLVED
Closed: 21 years ago → 21 years ago
Resolution: --- → WONTFIX
Updated•20 years ago
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Product: Core → Mozilla Application Suite
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