Closed
Bug 213117
Opened 21 years ago
Closed 21 years ago
new text for about:mozilla
Categories
(Core :: Networking, enhancement)
Core
Networking
Tracking
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VERIFIED
FIXED
mozilla1.5final
People
(Reporter: dwitte, Assigned: gerv)
References
Details
(Keywords: fixed1.5)
Attachments
(2 files, 4 obsolete files)
1.90 KB,
application/xhtml+xml
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820 bytes,
patch
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gerv
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review+
asa
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approval1.5+
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Details | Diff | Splinter Review |
There are some nice suggestions floating around for about:mozilla. One of my favorites is http://xulplanet.com/ndeakin/arts/mozilla715.html. Neal, if you'd like to give us permission to use your text in mozilla, I can post a patch for it, and see what other folk think.
Comment 1•21 years ago
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well, as I said on irc, my favourite would be http://www.mversen.de/
Comment 2•21 years ago
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Sorry Dan, it's a dupe of bug 160156, assigned to asa. PS: I vote for this first suggestion in this bug :-)
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Comment 3•21 years ago
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ah, good find... however, we have a couple of good suggestions here, so i'd rather not dupe it... (if anything, maybe dupe the other one to this). cc'ing asa.
Comment 4•21 years ago
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Go for it. Or, perhaps a combination of the two suggestions.
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Comment 5•21 years ago
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thanks! here's a patch for the first suggestion...
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Comment 6•21 years ago
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Comment on attachment 128041 [details] [diff] [review] about:mozilla text per comment 0 Asa, would you like to take a look at this? thx!
Attachment #128041 -
Flags: review?(asa)
Comment 7•21 years ago
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This would make a nice about for Firebird but I'm not sure we want to replace SeaMonkey's about:mozilla with this.
Comment 9•21 years ago
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If you do use mine, at least spell my name right. ;) - Neal Deakin <enndeakin@sympatico.ca> + Neil Deakin <enndeakin@sympatico.ca>
Comment 10•21 years ago
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Nobody dares to put direct links to the 'unbelievers', 'Mammon' and the 2 birds in this text (comment 0) ? Or is that a bit too much ;-)
Comment 11•21 years ago
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*** Bug 213645 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 12•21 years ago
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some words of revenge about netscap'e death would be nice
Comment 13•21 years ago
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take a look at the duplicate bug (I posted it),, and read the other two about: suggestions
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Comment 14•21 years ago
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Patch with "(Red Letter Edition)" removed. Let's get this in for beta. :-) Gerv
Attachment #128041 -
Attachment is obsolete: true
Assignee | ||
Comment 15•21 years ago
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Taking. Gerv
Assignee: bugs → gerv
Target Milestone: --- → mozilla1.5beta
Assignee | ||
Comment 16•21 years ago
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Comment on attachment 130330 [details] [diff] [review] Patch v.2 Dan, you seem like as good a person as any to rubber-stamp this, unless Neal wants to. (staff@mozilla.org have agreed to this change, and I've been given the job of making it happen.) Gerv
Attachment #130330 -
Flags: review?(dwitte)
Assignee | ||
Comment 17•21 years ago
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Particularly, I've inserted a couple of s because italic f's have a big tail, and it doesn't look like there's a space before "fell" or "fire" otherwise. But if the space is too big on your OS, we may have to think of another solution. Gerv
Status: NEW → ASSIGNED
Comment 18•21 years ago
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Gerv, if you want spacing, please use CSS, not &nsbp;
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Comment 19•21 years ago
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caillon: care to be more specific? .fixthepoorfontspacingalgorithm { padding-left: 1ex } ... <span class="fixthepoorfontspacingalgorithm">fall</span> ? Gerv
Comment 20•21 years ago
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Comment on attachment 128041 [details] [diff] [review] about:mozilla text per comment 0 (obsolete patch => clearing review request)
Attachment #128041 -
Flags: review?(asa)
Comment 21•21 years ago
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*** Bug 160156 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Reporter | ||
Comment 22•21 years ago
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yeah, those 's aren't so nice... also, for some reason I misspelt Neil's name (see comment 9), so please correct that. + Neal Deakin <enndeakin@sympatico.ca>
Comment 23•21 years ago
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gerv: which OS/fonts are you using that have the "f" problem?
Comment 24•21 years ago
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Comment 25•21 years ago
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Red Hat Linux 8, KDE, adobe-times-iso8859-1, 16px base size. Basic's attachment is pretty good, although .3ex would probably make them match the other ones more exactly. Gerv
Comment 26•21 years ago
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If 'f' and its appearance means so much then maybe line spacing also needs some work. For example depending on the width of browser window "cowered in horror" can be layed out on its own line. When that happens, it has much smaller line spacing that other lines :)
Comment 27•21 years ago
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--and what about implementing an about:netscape command, as a tribute?
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Comment 28•21 years ago
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asko: only on very small browser windows. galileo: that's not what this bug is about. Let's go with basic's version. Gerv
Assignee | ||
Updated•21 years ago
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Attachment #130344 -
Flags: review+
Assignee | ||
Comment 29•21 years ago
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This is probably too late for 1.5b, but it doesn't hurt to ask. Gerv
Flags: blocking1.5b?
Reporter | ||
Updated•21 years ago
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Attachment #130330 -
Flags: review?(dwitte)
Assignee | ||
Updated•21 years ago
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Attachment #130344 -
Flags: approval1.5b?
Assignee | ||
Comment 30•21 years ago
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Comment on attachment 130344 [details]
a slightly modified version
Requesting approval for 1.5.
Gerv
Attachment #130344 -
Flags: approval1.5b? → approval1.5?
Assignee | ||
Updated•21 years ago
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Flags: blocking1.5b? → blocking1.5?
Comment 31•21 years ago
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Comment on attachment 130344 [details]
a slightly modified version
a=asa (on behalf of drivers) for checkin to Mozilla 1.5
Attachment #130344 -
Flags: approval1.5? → approval1.5+
Comment 32•21 years ago
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approved to land but wouldn't block 1.5 for this.
Flags: blocking1.5? → blocking1.5-
Reporter | ||
Comment 33•21 years ago
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gerv: let me know if you'd like me to land this for you.
Comment 34•21 years ago
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Comment on attachment 130344 [details]
a slightly modified version
Is it not a bug that the f's have big tails and do bad things? if that's a bug
then shouldn't we fix it before we go introducing a buggy bandaged document
which will live forever?
On my relatively typical w2k install the f's are too far shifted from the
preceding words.
Offtopic, who's rejoicing? The following sentence seems to be a non sequitur.
usually "but" means the next thing contradicts the previous. Something like
... and the believers mourned. But all was not lost, for out of the ashes ...
Attachment #130344 -
Flags: superreview?(dbaron)
Comment 35•21 years ago
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timeless: Your "f" problem isn't seen on my Linux XFT-enabled build. It might be Win32-only or specific for some certain config you have on your system.
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Comment 36•21 years ago
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Fixed. Checking in xpfe/global/resources/content/mozilla.xhtml; /cvsroot/mozilla/xpfe/global/resources/content/mozilla.xhtml,v <-- mozilla.xhtml new revision: 1.5; previous revision: 1.4 done Gerv
Status: ASSIGNED → RESOLVED
Closed: 21 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED
Comment 37•21 years ago
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> asko: only on very small browser windows.
Actually, he had a good point. And it's not just for small browser windows. My
browser is 1080px width, and "cowered in horror." ends up on a line by itself.
With no <em>'d text in the taller font, the spacing really looks off on the page.
More minor of a display issue: the /f/ spacing looks like it is a little bit
bigger than the rest, especially when compared to the /t/ from thunder very
close to it. RH8, gtk2 build.
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Comment 38•21 years ago
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Jeremy: actually, you have a good point. Can anyone work out how to guarantee consistent line-height? I can't. BTW, the checked-in f-spacing was .3em instead of .4em. Gerv
Comment 39•21 years ago
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Asa said in comment 7: "This would make a nice about for Firebird but I'm not sure we want to replace SeaMonkey's about:mozilla with this." Right now, it's replaced in SeaMonkey but not in Firebird...
Comment 40•21 years ago
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Gerv: can't you set line-height for the whole paragraph based on the max of
1.3em text height? See what the line-height Moz works out to automatically for
those lines, and then set all the lines to that.
N.B.: I often assume CSS can, you know, do simple text stylings. Most of the
time I am proven wrong.
> BTW, the checked-in f-spacing was .3em instead of .4em.
I think you mean ex, not em. That should be the appropriate spacing. It's a
shame this hack is needed though. I use italicized text quite a bit in my
weblog, and it always renders quite poor on Linux/Firebird, compared to
Windows/IE. (though it doesn't seem as bad with the gtk2 builds)
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Comment 41•21 years ago
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Steffen: the patch was made and approved for Mozilla. However, I didn't know Mozilla Firebird used a different about:mozilla file. Where is that stored? Jeremy: I had a go at that, but I'm not a CSS expert. Perhaps someone a bit more skilled can have a go. Gerv
Comment 42•21 years ago
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Gerv: http://lxr.mozilla.org/mozilla/source/toolkit/content/mozilla.xhtml
Comment 43•21 years ago
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line-height: 1.5em should do the trick. the "f" padding-left is 0.3ex. I think 0.2ex looks even better though.
Comment 44•21 years ago
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Steffen's version looks much better when no <em> text ends up on the last line. The 0.2ex looks a bit better too, I believe. Again, at least on Linux/RH8/FB/gtk2. Seperately: The whole div moves down the wider my window gets. The actual text remains on two lines, so I don't know why margin-top: 15%; would affect vertical spacing when only total horizontal size grows.
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Comment 45•21 years ago
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It definitely looks better than before; but, after having set it, you would expect the line-height to be exactly the same for all lines, wouldn't you? Because it's not (with 'cowered in horror' on its own), by a few pixels. The cowered in horror line is still smaller. Is there some other measure (line-depth?) we haven't altered? Gerv
Comment 46•21 years ago
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Gerv, you're right. Line-height refers to the font size. The larger the font size, the larger the space between lines. This is more visible if you set "em" to a much larger size, like font-size:4em. The "covered by horror" line is too small indeed. "Line-stacking-strategy" from the css3 line module looks promising, but that doesn't seem to have been implemented yet. http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-linebox/#LineStacking But I've got another solution.
Comment 47•21 years ago
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By setting em {line-height: 0}, I get rid of the influence of the em font-size to the line-height. To see the effect, first try #moztext {line-height: 1.5} and em {font-size: 4em}, without the line-height in em. The "cowered in horrer" line is much too small. Then try #mozext {line-height: 4} and em {font-size: 4em; line-height: 0}. The "cowered in horror" line is fine.
Updated•21 years ago
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Attachment #130330 -
Attachment is obsolete: true
Attachment #130813 -
Attachment is obsolete: true
Comment 48•21 years ago
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my very first patch!
Updated•21 years ago
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Attachment #130344 -
Attachment is obsolete: true
Updated•21 years ago
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Attachment #131406 -
Flags: review?(gerv)
Comment 49•21 years ago
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reopening to get this done.
Status: RESOLVED → REOPENED
Resolution: FIXED → ---
Attachment #130344 -
Flags: superreview?(dbaron)
Assignee | ||
Comment 50•21 years ago
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Comment on attachment 131222 [details]
testcase with #moztext{line-height:1.5} and em{line-height:0}
Requesting module owner approval from blake or hyatt to land this in the
Firebird tree (for 0.7) as well.
Gerv
Attachment #131222 -
Flags: superreview?(hyatt)
Attachment #131222 -
Flags: review?(blake)
Assignee | ||
Comment 51•21 years ago
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Comment on attachment 131406 [details] [diff] [review] patch based on the last testcase r=gerv. Gerv
Attachment #131406 -
Flags: review?(gerv) → review+
Assignee | ||
Comment 52•21 years ago
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Comment on attachment 131406 [details] [diff] [review] patch based on the last testcase Asking for 1.5 approval - small tweak to earlier fix. Gerv
Attachment #131406 -
Flags: approval1.5?
Comment 53•21 years ago
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Comment on attachment 131222 [details]
testcase with #moztext{line-height:1.5} and em{line-height:0}
removing r= and sr= requests from the testcase.
Attachment #131222 -
Flags: superreview?(hyatt)
Attachment #131222 -
Flags: review?(blake)
Comment 54•21 years ago
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Comment on attachment 131406 [details] [diff] [review] patch based on the last testcase Requesting sr for the patch.
Attachment #131406 -
Flags: superreview?(hyatt)
Comment 55•21 years ago
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Comment on attachment 131406 [details] [diff] [review] patch based on the last testcase On other thought: Gerv, please seek sr yourself if you want.
Attachment #131406 -
Flags: superreview?(hyatt)
Comment 56•21 years ago
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Comment on attachment 131406 [details] [diff] [review] patch based on the last testcase a=asa (on behalf of drivers) for checkin to the Mozilla 1.5 branch. Please add the fixed1.5 keyword when this is landed on the branch. Thanks.
Attachment #131406 -
Flags: approval1.5? → approval1.5+
Assignee | ||
Comment 57•21 years ago
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Fixed (again :-). Checking in ./xpfe/global/resources/content/mozilla.xhtml; /cvsroot/mozilla/xpfe/global/resources/content/mozilla.xhtml,v <-- mozilla.xhtml new revision: 1.5.2.1; previous revision: 1.5 done Gerv
Status: REOPENED → RESOLVED
Closed: 21 years ago → 21 years ago
Keywords: fixed1.5
Resolution: --- → FIXED
Target Milestone: mozilla1.5beta → mozilla1.5final
Comment 58•21 years ago
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Gerv, please check this into the trunk as well.
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Comment 59•21 years ago
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Tweak patch now checked into trunk also. Gerv
Comment 61•20 years ago
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Should this not be updated again :o\ Since the name-change from firebird to firefox, the refference to the bird of fire is now redundent...
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Comment 62•20 years ago
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No. You are reading it far too literally ;-) Gerv
Comment 63•14 years ago
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This maybe a wrong piece of information that i have found along my travels but i think how Firefox is know more popular than IE. This is my idea of the content for the page And the once mighty mammon has fallen to the ever growing beast,with this great victory the beast may one day banish the mammon for good the place i got this information from is a website that i very much trust here is the link http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
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