234181 - RFE: Spam / Junk: Should not add messages to Junk folder while it is open / in use

Status: RESOLVED EXPIRED

(SeaMonkey :: MailNews: Message Display, enhancement)

Description

[Jay Smith]

User-Agent:       
Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040123

REQUEST FOR ENHANCEMENT:

In my opinion, the spam/junk filtering should not be adding/moving messages to
the designated Junk folder *while* the user is in that folder reviewing what is
in it.

The problem is that if you have 400 messages in the Junk folder (that came in
overnight) it takes long enough to review that there are no "good" messages
accidentally in it (and there sometimes are!) that more messages have since come
in.  Some of those newly added/moved messages might be good, but you have no way
to be sure without looking at them all again (unless you Mark or Label the
contents of the folder before you start your examination -- but most people
don't think of that).

I do recognize that the problem with this RFE is how do you deal with the
situation where somebody leaves focus on that folder for an extended period of
time when they are not really meaning to be in that folder.

Reproducible: Always
Steps to Reproduce:
1. Be in June folder

Actual Results:  
More messages are added and I can't easily determine which were just added.

Expected Results:  
Either more messages should not be added while I am in the folder or there
should be an easy way to determine which were just added.

Maybe messages that are added while focus is on the folder could be Marked or
Labeled in some way.

Or maybe they can be put at the bottom of the list -- but that is problematic as
it is not how everything else behaves and you don't really know how the person
has the list sorted.

Comment 1

[R.K.Aa.]

Weird request. By the same logic, one shouldn't get new mail while focus is on
the Inbox either.

How do you "examine" the messages? I mean.. if you haven't examined a message
yet - what does it matter whether it arrived an hour ago or just a minute ago?
Personally, I delete those i don't want and move those i want. As I read them,
they are marked as read. That "labeling" is good enough. 

Comment 2

[Alfonso Martinez]

Before going to the junk folder you could set Mozilla to work Offline, that way
it's sure that no new messages will arrive at all at any folder.

Comment 3

[Jay Smith]

R.K.Aa:

I don't think you fully grasped my point.  I don't "read" the messages.  I just
look at the subjects.  But in the time it takes to look at 400 subject lines,
another 5 messages have come into the folder.  Thus they are not distinguished
from the 400 that were there already.  One of those 5 might be real mail that
should not have been marked as spam -- maybe an order from a customer or
something like that.

Alfonso Martinez:

Thanks.  I will try this and see how practical it is.  It is probably about as
much work as Marking or Labeling everything in the folder before I start to look
at the subjects.  I have never had a need to be "offline" and thus did not occur
to me.

Jay

Comment 4

[Robert Accettura [:raccettura]]

Why not just let set the client to check in a longer interval of time (perhaps
15+ minutes).  That way you have more time.  

If you have the problem your saying, it shouldn't matter how often it checks,
since it will take a while for you to read it.

That's why that's an option.

Comment 5

[Jay Smith]

Robert: You are correct that your approach would work; however then *all*
checking would be delayed by the same amount.  I do a lot of work on the phone
in which the other person is sending me emails and we are discussing them, going
back and forth; sort of a chat/email combo.  I have the checking set to one
minute in order to get such items quickly.  Thus for me the approach you
describe would not be very helpful.

Jay

Comment 6

[Thomas Harold]

I don't know of any other e-mail program that puts incoming mail on hold while
you happen to be in a particular folder.  I counted 3 or 4 quite reasonable
workarounds suggested that require no code changes.  The user is attempting to
use e-mail (which is a delayed delivery messaging system) as an instant
messaging system (which it is not designed to be).

Comment 7

[Gervase Markham [:gerv]]

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