241676 - 'copy [link|image] location' should say 'copy [link|image] address'

Status: VERIFIED WONTFIX

(Firefox :: Menus, enhancement)

Description

[Az]

User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040206 Firefox/0.8
Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040206 Firefox/0.8

In the context menu, when right clicking a link, the option for copying the
address of the link reads 'Copy Link Location'. I believe it would be clearer if
it read 'Copy Link Address' as it is the address which is being copied not the
location.

I realise this is a ridiculously small bug but i feel it would be beneficial
nevertheless.

Reproducible: Always
Steps to Reproduce:

Comment 1

[Ali Ebrahim]

I would tend to agree with the reporter on this point. Many a time have I
wondered to myself why exactly we have this weird wording.

--> Menus

Comment 2

[C. Fox]

I thought it was just a throwback to The Beginning of Time (tm) as URL's have
always been referred to as "Addresses" by IE and "Locations" by Netscape (since,
version 4?). Well, there was that "Netsite" label for awhile.

But in general, I just think it's a vocabulary difference from the browser wars.
"Address" has become the preferred consumer-friendly term because IE won.

Comment 3

[Ali Ebrahim]

Wontfixing as per bug 203720. It appears that we've chosen location.

Comment 4

[Az]

I think you're making a mistake, can I urge you to reconsider ?  You said
yourself 'I wondered to myself why exactly we have this weird wording.'.

Comment 5

[Ali Ebrahim]

Okay, we can reopen this, and Ben will look at it as part of his Awkward UI Text
review. Although I think that this decision as already been made...

Comment 6

[Vidar Haarr (not reading bugmail)]

I vote WONTFIX. Since it's called the "Location bar", it should also say "Copy
Link Location".

Comment 7

[Az]

We are trying to make Firefox appropriate for IE 'switchers', end users _are_
going to be confused by the current wording.

Comment 8

[Jeff Walden [:Waldo]]

Attachment: Location changed to Address for "Copy [Link|Image] Location"

Comment 9

[Jeff Walden [:Waldo]]

Attachment: Change wording, update Help

Oops, should have updated Help docs for the change (this patch fixes this). 
Sorry for the bugspam.

Comment 10

[Jeff Walden [:Waldo]]

Comment on attachment 156115 [details] [diff] [review]
Change wording, update Help

Requesting review from blake...a simple patch, just decide if you think it
should be done.

Comment 11

[Jeff Walden [:Waldo]]

This is a localization change, so *if* it should be made then it needs to be
made before 1.0 PR.  The tracker's been minused, so setting the flag to ? is the
proper move, I believe.

-->blocking-aviary1.0PR?

Comment 12

[chris hofmann]

blake, can you review?

Comment 13

[Ben Goodger (use ben at mozilla dot org for email)]

Comment on attachment 156115 [details] [diff] [review]
Change wording, update Help

You can't change the terminology in one place without changing it everywhere.

Comment 14

[Jeff Walden [:Waldo]]

Attachment: Better patch, verified against grep -iRl 'copy [image|link] location' *

Comment 15

[Ben Goodger (use ben at mozilla dot org for email)]

The patch here still does not address the fact that this is a terminology
mismatch with the rest of the application. We use "Location" to refer to the
location of documents (html pages, images, etc) throughout the application, and
applying piecemeal patches is not the way to make changes. I'm not necessarily
convinced of the benefit of Address vs. Location anyway. I'm minusing this bug. 

Comment 16

[Jeff Walden [:Waldo]]

If Ben isn't sure that this is a good idea, I'll defer to him.  The benefit *is*
rather dubious, and we'd probably also have to change it to the Address Bar
(which seems like something that wouldn't be done) if this were to be properly
fixed as Ben describes.

I've given it a shot, been turned down, and I realize this isn't something that
likely matters much.  Someone else can take this.

Comment 17

[:Gavin Sharp [email: [e-mail]]]

Based on comments from Ben and Jeff, marking WONTFIX.

Comment 18

[Az]

I'm going to make one last plea, I have several times heard people wonder what
is mean by 'location'.  If it requires lots of changes that should not be a
barrier, I think this is a good change to make.

Comment 19

[Jesse Ruderman]

Az: If you file a new bug asking for a terminology change (location -> address)
throughout Firefox, I'll vote for it.

Comment 20

[Az]

Please see bug 289458