295774 - "Clear" vs. "Empty" wording is inconsistent (cache/history in prefs vs menus)

Status: RESOLVED FIXED

(Camino Graveyard :: Toolbars & Menus, defect)

Description

[Chris Lawson (gone)]

User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8b2) Gecko/20050517 Camino/0.8+
Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8b2) Gecko/20050517 Camino/0.8+

As mentioned recently on the MZ Forums, Camino has a minor inconsistency in its
wording. In Preferences, the option to clear history is worded as "Clear Visited
Pages" while in the Go menu, it is worded "Clear History."

Likewise, the Camino menu contains "Empty Cache", while preferences contains
"Clear Cache."

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:

Actual Results:  
inconsistent wording

Expected Results:  
consistent wording

Comment 1

[Smokey Ardisson (offline for a while; not following bugs - do not email)]

Seems reasonable.  Polish, maybe for 1.1?

Comment 2

[Smokey Ardisson (offline for a while; not following bugs - do not email)]

Can we decide on which way we want to go for each (or should they both take the
same term)?  This seems like a pretty easy bit of polish we could sneak in, if
we had wording.

I tend to favor "Empty Cache" slightly because cache seems to me something like
trash, a repository of multiple files that gets emptied and refilled.  But if we
want only one verb, "Clear" is fine (both "Clear Cache" and "Clear Visited
Pages" are in the same prefpane).

"Visited pages" seems like the more entrenched term in that area and is
user-friendly, so that seems like the way to go.  Although that will require a
bit of work in the "Clear History..." dialogue (the other will require a bit of
work in the prefs; it's a toss-up, I think).

Comment 3

[Chris Lawson (gone)]

Mike, Simon, Samuel? What say ye? Now that we've got two related bugs (bug 315886 and bug 315877), can we make a decision and knock all three of these out at once?

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Comment 4

[Samuel Sidler (old account; do not CC)]

I say we "Empty" cache, but "Clear Visited Pages". People who know what cache is probably understand what we mean by "Empty", whereas those clearing visited pages are getting a more thorough explanation. It should always be "clear" when we're talking about history, pages, etc, but "empty" when we're talking about cache (and other more technical terms). Cache and history aren't the same and we should use different terminology for each.

(In otherwords, change the one button in the prefs that says "Clear Cache" to "Empty Cache". Everything else stays the same.)

Comment 5

[Smokey Ardisson (offline for a while; not following bugs - do not email)]

(In reply to comment #4)
> (In otherwords, change the one button in the prefs that says "Clear Cache" to
> "Empty Cache". Everything else stays the same.)

I'm fine with that for cache, but it still leaves us calling history "Visited Pages" in the prefs and "History" in the Go menu, which was the original complaint.

It's wierd either way, I think.

Comment 6

[Samuel Sidler (old account; do not CC)]

It needs to say History all around. We don't say "Show Visited Pages", but rather "Show History."

Comment 7

[Smokey Ardisson (offline for a while; not following bugs - do not email)]

"Clear History" also keeps us in sync with the button title in the "are you sure?" dialogue that is shown when the menu is invoked (and will be shown in the prefPane once bug 315886 lands).

I'll attach a fixed History.nib shortly with these button changes.

Comment 8

[Smokey Ardisson (offline for a while; not following bugs - do not email)]

Attachment: History prefPane's History.nib with "Clear History…" and "Empty Cache…"

So the buttons are now "Clear History…" and "Empty Cache…" to be consistent with the Go and Camino menu items, respectively, and have the elipsis since they'll be getting the matching "Are you sure?" dialogues in bug 315886.

Comment 9

[Chris Lawson (gone)]

--> Smokey.

cl

Comment 10

[Simon Fraser [no longer active]]

Checked in.