375426 - Remove mozilla.dev.general

Status: RESOLVED FIXED

(mozilla.org :: Discussion Forums, task)

Description

[Mike Connor [:mconnor]]

Most of the process and overall stuff is planning, or close to it, and thus has ended up in mozilla.dev.planning.  All of the other stuff is people not knowing where to ask stuff (.builds, .xpcom, etc) which is a bad reason to have a catch-all.  It just becomes the place where posts go to die, and should be removed so there's no obvious "I give up" group that no one follows.

Comment 1

[Gervase Markham [:gerv]]

mconnor is right; I just posted what I thought was a "general" post here and lots of people said they had no idea that the group even existed. bsmedberg also concurs via IRC.

I will post to mozilla.dev.general making mention of this bug, and if no-one objects violently, we'll get Giganews to nuke it. Or at least close it to new posts or something.

justdave: how do we walk the line so we can deprecate a group and yet not throw away all the information inside it? In this case, perhaps we could live with a nuking, but it's a useful question to know the answer to.

Gerv

Comment 2

[David E. Ross]

If <news://news.mozilla.org:119/mozilla.dev.general> did not exist, where would have the message "New 'INCOMPLETE' resolution in Bugzilla" (regarding bug #369544) been posted?  

Comment 3

[Dave Miller [:justdave]]

(In reply to comment #1)
> justdave: how do we walk the line so we can deprecate a group and yet not throw
> away all the information inside it? In this case, perhaps we could live with a
> nuking, but it's a useful question to know the answer to.

Typically it'll get outright nuked from giganews, but we'll have Google switch it to "archived" status, so all of the old posts will still be on Google but it won't allow posting anymore.

This is what we've done with the other newsgroups we've deprecated in the past.

Comment 4

[Gervase Markham [:gerv]]

David: after the discussion on IRC where several people said they wouldn't have seen it if I hadn't mentioned where it was, mozilla.dev.planning was suggested - and I have since cross-posted it there. It seems to be picking up a lot of these general project announcements.

Gerv

Comment 5

[Gervase Markham [:gerv]]

No objections; please go ahead and remove the group, as outlined in comment #3.

Thanks,

Gerv

Comment 6

[Dave Miller [:justdave]]

This list has been requested to be removed from Giganews and switched to archived status on Google.  The mailman list has been hidden, and will be removed after the group is gone from Giganews.

Comment 7

[Dave Miller [:justdave]]

This does not yet seem to have disappeared off news.mozilla.org, however Giganews mentioned in their response to the other newsgroup adds that it should be disappearing within the next couple hours.

Comment 8

[Dave Miller [:justdave]]

Google Groups is now showing this group as read-only.  It hasn't disappeared off of news.mozilla.org yet though.  It was filed as a separate ticket from all the group adds this morning though, and this one is still showing open, so they probably just got busy.  I just pinged again on it.

Comment 9

[Karsten Düsterloh]

It's gone on news.mozilla.org now, as MailNews surprised me. ;-)

Comment 10

[Dave Miller [:justdave]]

Confirmed.  I had email from Giganews closing the ticket this morning.