452042 - Strings to localize for the "Firefox in your country" survey

Status: RESOLVED FIXED

(Websites :: Other, defect)

Description

[Pascal Chevrel:pascalc (PTO until April 26)]

Attachment: English strings to translate

We are organizing a survey for September on a few targeted locales titled "Firefox in your country". We thus need the survey to be localized for the following locales:

'de', 'en-GB', 'es-ES', 'id', 'pl', 'pt-BR'

You will find attached to this bug the text file to translate in a text editor.

Thanks

Comment 1

[RickieES aka Ricardo Palomares]

Attachment: es-ES translation for the survey (1st draft)

First draft of the es-ES translation. Either we will provide a better version, or we will confirm this one as the final valid version.

Comment 2

[Filipe Grillo]

Attachment: Survey strings in pt-BR

Done for pt-BR 

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Comment 3

[Sebastian Hengst [:aryx] (needinfo me if it's about an intermittent or backout)]

de-DE is work in progress

Comment 4

[Henrik Skupin [:whimboo][⌚️UTC+1]]

(In reply to comment #3)
> de-DE is work in progress

We are still working on this. Please contact me on IRC (nick whimboo).

Comment 5

[Sebastian Hengst [:aryx] (needinfo me if it's about an intermittent or backout)]

Attachment: de-DE translation

German translation - sorry, I was already done when I posted the WIP hint. I had only to take a break before checking the whole translation again.

Comment 6

[Wojciech Szczęsny]

Attachment: Polish translation

Done for pl.
Staś, please, review it.

Comment 7

[RickieES aka Ricardo Palomares]

Attachment: Revised es-ES translation

Comment 8

[Jesper Hansen]

There's a spelling error in the english version?
;Being aware of Firefox, but now knowing why it is unique or better

Shouldn't that be 'not' instead of 'now'?

Comment 9

[Alix Franquet [:alix]]

Jesper: Definitely... thanks for pointing it out!

Comment 10

[Staś Małolepszy :stas]

Jesper: good catch, thanks!

All: Thank you for your translations. I'll take care of the typo that Jesper found, so don't worry about you translated files :)

Comment 11

[Staś Małolepszy :stas]

BTW. any news on Indonesian? :)

Comment 12

[Henrik Skupin [:whimboo][⌚️UTC+1]]

Comment on attachment 335573 [details]
de-DE translation

All the work will be handled in bug 452738. We will attach the final version when it's ready.

Comment 13

[Staś Małolepszy :stas]

Henrik, thanks for the update.

Comment 14

[rodin]

Attachment: [id] translation

Back from summer camp :)

Comment 15

[Staś Małolepszy :stas]

Romi: thanks! Hope you had a good time :)

I'll put all the translations on the staging server tomorrow.  Thanks for all your work.

Comment 16

[Staś Małolepszy :stas]

Attachment: Initial en-GB translation

Comment 17

[Staś Małolepszy :stas]

Any updates on the German translation? :)

Comment 18

[Henrik Skupin [:whimboo][⌚️UTC+1]]

What's the death line for the translation? But it looks like that we will be ready soon.

Comment 19

[Staś Małolepszy :stas]

Henrik, great to hear that. We'd like to go live with the survey on Tuesday, so it would be great to have the translation ready on Monday. Thanks!

Comment 20

[Henrik Skupin [:whimboo][⌚️UTC+1]]

Stas, that will be happen. But one question before we finish the translation. How should we include other countries like Austria and Switzerland? Currently the translation only appeals to German citizens.

Comment 21

[Staś Małolepszy :stas]

Henrik, my initial answer is to leave "in your country" instead of "in Germany" in the affected strings. But let's ask Alix about it.

Alix: the survey tool can only detect the language of the respondent, not the country, so we can't have different translations for Germany, Austria and Switzerland. This means that people coming from for example Austria will see the page in German, but the survey title would be "Firefox in Germany". I think we could do "Firefox in your country" in this case instead. We will still be asking them to provide their country of origin, so we will be able to see separately how German, Austrian and Swiss users responded. What do you think?

Comment 22

[Staś Małolepszy :stas]

(In reply to comment #20)
> Stas, that will be happen. But one question before we finish the translation.
> How should we include other countries like Austria and Switzerland? Currently
> the translation only appeals to German citizens.

After chatting with Alix we decided to keep "in Germany" version (as well as "in Spain" and "in Brazil"). The rationale is that we consider this survey a kind of a test-run, and eventually, we would like to extend to other countries as well. If we get people from these countries to take our survey right now, we loose the opportunity to survey them next time :) That's why we want to keep the message clear and explicitly invite in the title only residents of Germany (Spain, Brazil..) to the study. 

Does this make sense?

Comment 23

[Henrik Skupin [:whimboo][⌚️UTC+1]]

I'm fine with your decision. Let it be a test run and serve the other two countries at a later time. We will try to get it done this weekend. Perhaps it can be done during our meeting in Cologne.

Comment 24

[Staś Małolepszy :stas]

That would be really cool. Please keep us updated :) Thanks in advance!

Comment 25

[Henrik Skupin [:whimboo][⌚️UTC+1]]

Attachment: German (de) localization v2

Looks like we are right in time with our translation.

Comment 26

[Staś Małolepszy :stas]

Whoah, great news :) Thanks!

Comment 27

[Staś Małolepszy :stas]

Attachment: Better en-GB l10n

Comment 28

[Staś Małolepszy :stas]

Seems like we're all set. Thanks to everyone for your help!

Comment 29

[Staś Małolepszy :stas]

Reopening for the following two strings:

pt-BR:
;12. Is there anything Mozilla should either start -- or stop -- doing to drive greater awareness, education, word-of-mouth or press in your market?

Indonesian (it wasn't originally in the file to translate, but it might be helpful):
;Other (please specify below)

If you guys could make it till tomorrow, that would be great :) Please add a comment to this bug with translation.

Other than that, check out the staging server at http://euro-surveys.php5stage.mozilla.com/?id=10 if you want to see your translation in action. 

Thanks again!

Comment 30

[rodin]

Attachment: [id] translataion v2

Some corrections after checking stage server. Based on cf_question.lang file from r18094

Comment 31

[rodin]

(In reply to comment #29)

stas, this is for [id]:

> ;Other (please specify below)
Lainnya (tuliskan di bawah ini)

Thanks!

Comment 32

[Staś Małolepszy :stas]

Romi, awesome, thanks! :) comment 30 and comment 31 landed in r18107.

Comment 33

[Staś Małolepszy :stas]

Filipe, would you find a minute to translate this sentence into pt-BR?

;12. Is there anything Mozilla should either start -- or stop -- doing to drive
greater awareness, education, word-of-mouth or press in your market?

(it's missing in the file)

Comment 34

[Staś Małolepszy :stas]

OK, we managed to translate this sentence in the end. Big thank you to everybody!

Comment 35

[Henrik Skupin [:whimboo][⌚️UTC+1]]

Why can Austria and Switzerland be selected for the survey in Germany at the bottom of the page? As you said above it should only be focus people from Germany?

Comment 36

[rodin]

stas, can we move the language selection to the top of the page

or

use flang form field using GET,so we can choose the language based on URL?

Indonesian people is mostly using en-US until now, and when they see [en] interface, there is no Indonesia country there. Telling them to scroll down first to change the language is not nice I think.

Comment 37

[Staś Małolepszy :stas]

Hey Romi,

This is already implemented: http://surveys.mozilla.org/?id=10&plocale=id

However, I'm working right now on some better way of presenting the language chooser (like the top of the page), not sure if I'll manage to finish it today.

Thanks for feedback! ):

Comment 38

[Staś Małolepszy :stas]

> Thanks for feedback! ):

Oops, I was too quick ;) That was supposed to be a smiling smiley, of course :)

Comment 39

[Pascal Chevrel:pascalc (PTO until April 26)]

how about presenting the language switcher in a fixed positionned box on the right ?

Comment 40

[rodin]

(In reply to comment #37)
> Hey Romi,
> 
> This is already implemented: http://surveys.mozilla.org/?id=10&plocale=id

Thanks stas!

Comment 41

[Henrik Skupin [:whimboo][⌚️UTC+1]]

(In reply to comment #35)
> Why can Austria and Switzerland be selected for the survey in Germany at the
> bottom of the page? As you said above it should only be focus people from
> Germany?

Stas? Can I get a feedback plz?

Comment 42

[Staś Małolepszy :stas]

Henrik, I'm sorry for replying with a delay.

We're getting lots of traffic from all over the world and many surveys have been taken by users who don't come from the six countries we selected. This is all very valuable feedback for us and having this question there will help us to determine which country the users were coming from. Does this answer your question? :)

Comment 43

[Henrik Skupin [:whimboo][⌚️UTC+1]]

Stas, IMO your latest comment conflicts with comment 22. Do you want to have users from other German speaking countries or not? I'm a bit curious.

Comment 44

[Staś Małolepszy :stas]

Ideally, we'd like them to wait until we roll out similar surveys in their respective countries. But hey, this is the Mozilla community, always super eager to help out :) And we can't forbid them to take the survey :) So we're asking this additional question to know where they come from. I strongly believe that instead of removing this question, we should focus on communicating that the survey is in a test-run phase and that we're currently studying the German market (and that the others will follow).

Comment 45

[Staś Małolepszy :stas]

(In reply to comment #39)
> how about presenting the language switcher in a fixed positionned box on the
> right ?

In the end, I made two language choosers (at the top and at the bottom), as well made sure that when changing languages, the selected answers are preserved during the reload of the page. 

Thanks for all the feedback. If you have other issues to report, please comment on bug 455404.

Comment 46

[Henrik Skupin [:whimboo][⌚️UTC+1]]

Alright. As I can see we will have a better recognition and could separate people from the other countries. That makes sense. Thanks Stas.

Comment 47

[Henrik Skupin [:whimboo][⌚️UTC+1]]

Sadly we used radio buttons for some answers. As we have heard from some users who has taken the survey there should be check boxes at least for the OS. No idea if it was intended to offer e.g. Windows *or* Linux in this survey.