Closed
Bug 477480
Opened 15 years ago
Closed 15 years ago
Messages received in Hotmail account show ??? instead of the Romanian diacritics
Categories
(Thunderbird :: Message Reader UI, defect)
Tracking
(Not tracked)
RESOLVED
INVALID
People
(Reporter: gabriel.tudor, Unassigned)
Details
Attachments
(2 files)
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; ro; rv:1.9.0.6) Gecko/2009011913 Firefox/3.0.6 Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; ro; rv:1.9.1b3pre) Gecko/20081204 Thunderbird/3.0b1 I have a problem with receiving messages in my Hotmail POP3 account. Instead of Romanian diacritics, I get ???. The same applies to indents (tabs). This is the text I'm sending to the POP3 hotmail account: Probă cu diacritice nesimțite și încercări românești... This is what I receive: ??? Prob? cu diacritice nesim?ite ?i ?ncerc?ri rom?ne?ti... I must admit that this does not happen when the message is sent from the web-based applications (Gmail, Ymail or Hotmail). It happens only when sending from Thunderbird to Thunderbird. My enconding is UTF-8, which is best for Romanian, but it seems that this is not the issue. Does anybody know what is causing this? Hotmail developers say that I should ask Mozilla. Reproducible: Always
Comment 1•15 years ago
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Can you post the source of a message? Also, what are your default charsets pointing to (Preferences -> Display -> Fonts… -> Character Encodings)?
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Comment 2•15 years ago
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The message source is this: From - Fri Feb 06 16:40:54 2009 X-Account-Key: account2 X-UIDL: 42E13F04-ADEC-4200-9CFC-688630569626 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-Mozilla-Keys: X-Message-Delivery: Vj0xLjE7dXM9MDtsPTA7YT0wO0Q9MjtTQ0w9NA== X-Message-Status: n:0 X-SID-PRA: ((Gabriel)) <gabriel@xyz.ro> X-Message-Info: 6sSXyD95QpVYN/VcMu8ySK3DEvZ35Mm44du4Z4Ub/+1xONxlI1yXkT0O6Q3E+BXTUIu8aVjoJo+vfCbwIze3ygTTCLlGZZzs Received: from mail.xyz.ro ([81.196.25.50]) by bay0-mc3-f18.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668); Fri, 6 Feb 2009 06:41:03 -0800 Received: by mail.xyz.ro (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 0B8BB4003CA4; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 16:40:58 +0200 (EET) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7-deb (2006-10-05) on dimitrie.baclica.ro X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, SUBJECT_ENCODED_TWICE,X_PRIORITY_HIGH autolearn=no version=3.1.7-deb Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [89.32.169.204]) by mail.xyz.ro (Postfix) with ESMTP id E77004003CA3 for <gabriel@xyz.com>; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 16:40:57 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <498C4BED.1060106@xyz.ro> Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 16:40:45 +0200 From: "((Gabriel))" <gabriel@xyz.ro> Organization: XYZ User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; ro; rv:1.9.1b3pre) Gecko/20081204 Thunderbird/3.0b1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gabriel@xyz.com Subject: =?UTF-8?B?UHJvYsSDIGN1IMOubmNlcmPEg3JpIG5lc2ltyJtpdGUgyJlpIHJlcGU=?= =?UTF-8?B?dMSDcmkgcm9tw6JuZciZdGk=?= X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070104090400070806090709" Return-Path: gabriel@xyz.ro X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Feb 2009 14:41:04.0234 (UTC) FILETIME=[F01034A0:01C98868] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070104090400070806090709 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Prob? cu diacritice nesim?ite ?i ?ncerc?ri rom?ne?ti... -- *((Gabriel)) **editor-prezentator RT*** Acest mesaj este confiden?ial ?i adresat doar destinatarului, precum ?i altor persoane autorizate s?-l primeasc?. Dezv?luirea, copierea, distribuirea sau ini?ierea unor ac?iuni pe baza lui, f?r? acordul meu scris, sunt strict interzise ?i atrag r?spunderea juridic?. Dac? a?i primit acest mesaj din gre?eal?, v? rog s? m? anun?a?i imediat, ?i s?-l ?terge?i apoi din sistemul dumneavoastr?. Subliniez c? orice comentarii pe care le fac reprezint? punctul meu de vedere, ?i nu cel oficial al Patriarhiei Rom?ne. --------------070104090400070806090709 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#3366ff"> <font face="Tahoma">??? Prob? cu diacritice nesim?ite ?i ?ncerc?ri rom?ne?ti... </font><br> <div class="moz-signature">-- <br> <meta content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"> <title></title> <div class="moz-signature"> <div class="moz-signature"> <div class="moz-signature"> <div class="moz-signature"> <div class="moz-signature"> <div class="moz-signature"> <div><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(51, 153, 255); line-height: 115%; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';"><font color="#3366ff">((Gabriel))</font><br> </span></b><b><span style="font-size: 8pt; color: red; line-height: 115%; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';"><u4:p></u4:p>editor-prezentator RT</span></b><b><span style="font-size: 7pt; color: rgb(217, 217, 217); line-height: 115%; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';"></span></b><span style="font-size: 7pt; color: rgb(226, 226, 226); line-height: 115%; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';"></span><span style="font-size: 7pt; color: rgb(226, 226, 226); line-height: 115%; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';"><br> ??? Acest mesaj este confiden?ial ?i adresat doar <br> destinatarului, precum </span><span style="font-size: 7pt; color: rgb(226, 226, 226); line-height: 115%; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';">?i</span><span style="font-size: 7pt; color: rgb(226, 226, 226); line-height: 115%; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';"> altor persoane autorizate <br> s?-l primeasc?.<br> ??? Dezv?luirea, copierea, distribuirea sau ini?ierea unor <br> ac?iuni pe baza lui, f?r? acordul meu scris, sunt strict <br> interzise ?i atrag r?spunderea juridic?. <br> ??? Dac? a?i primit acest mesaj din gre?eal?, v? rog s? <br> m? anun?a?i imediat, ?i s?-l ?terge?i apoi din sistemul <br> dumneavoastr?. <br> ??? Subliniez c? orice comentarii pe care le fac reprezint?<br> punctul meu de vedere, ?i nu cel oficial al Patriarhiei Rom?ne. </span></div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </body> </html> --------------070104090400070806090709-- I have replaced some of my personal data to avoid possible spam, but the relevant data is there. I repeat, this happens only when sending from another Thunderbird account to the Thunderbird Windows Live account. My character encoding is UTF-8, which is the best for Romanian language. I don't have a problem with this in my other accounts.
Comment 3•15 years ago
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What does that same message source look like if you look at the copy in your sent folder?
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Comment 4•15 years ago
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Look here: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=1083915 Everything is explained in detail.
Comment 5•15 years ago
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Ok, so the sent copy is ok. Did you try using another smtp server? Sounds like a hotmail server bug, you can get pop3 (and smtp) logs to verify that: http://wiki.mozilla.org/MailNews:Logging
Comment 6•15 years ago
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doesn't meet the criteria for sev=critical, unless it's dataloss
Severity: critical → major
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Comment 7•15 years ago
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The recipient can't read it properly, so if there are important things written with diacritics, the recipient will have a hard time decoding this and, probably, will trash the message. So, you could consider this data loss, from the recipient's perspective... As I found out on multiple forums, this does not happen only with Romanian characters. It happens also with some accented characters from other languages, so it's a big problem.
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Comment 8•15 years ago
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Comment 9•15 years ago
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Comment 10•15 years ago
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0[1634280]: RECV: Prob? cu diacritice nesim?ite ?i ?ncerc?ri rom?ne?ti. As you can see from the pop3 log, what thunderbird receives is indeed the text with question marks. 0[1634280]: SMTP Response: 250-8BITMIME So the server says 8bit is ok, but probably doesn't do it right. As a workaround for the server bug, you can probably set the mail.strictly_mime pref to true...
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Comment 11•15 years ago
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(In reply to comment #10) > 0[1634280]: RECV: Prob? cu diacritice nesim?ite ?i ?ncerc?ri rom?ne?ti. > > As you can see from the pop3 log, what thunderbird receives is indeed the text > with question marks. > > 0[1634280]: SMTP Response: 250-8BITMIME > > So the server says 8bit is ok, but probably doesn't do it right. > > As a workaround for the server bug, you can probably set the mail.strictly_mime > pref to true... PROBLEM SOLVED if mail.strictly_mime set to true, but will this affect the normal behaviour of all the other accounts I have in Thunderbird? Is there something I should be aware of, after changing this preference?
Comment 12•15 years ago
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What mail.strictly_mime does is it forces the message to get encoded into quoted-printable for transfer, thus avoiding the server bug.
Comment 13•15 years ago
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->INVALID (server bug per previous discussion)
Status: UNCONFIRMED → RESOLVED
Closed: 15 years ago
Resolution: --- → INVALID
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