50288 - allow user to turn off borders around clicked links

Status: VERIFIED DUPLICATE of bug 32818

(Core :: Layout, enhancement, P4)

Description

[Joakim Recht]

From Bugzilla Helper:
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.4.0-test7 i686; en-US; m18) Gecko/20000824
BuildID:    2000082408

A newly added "feature" shows a dotted border around links when you click on
then, like IE does. This looks very irritating, and there should be a way to
turn it off.

Reproducible: Always

Comment 1

[R.K.Aa.]

*** Bug 50289 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 2

[leger]

Reassigning from bdonohoe to hangas

Comment 3

[Blake Ross]

This was intended as a way for links to show focus (otherwise focus can be 
seemingly 'lost' on a page since there's no visual indication to the user where 
it is).  Do you have any suggestions for more visually-appealing ways?

I don't understand why it's really that annoying (it'll be gone in two seconds 
once the new page loads), but over to Ian, cc rods who implemented the -moz-
outline I think (which is being used here).

Comment 4

[sean echevarria]

Some links do not open a new page.  They might execute javascript in the current
page for example.

A sample case if you have the Beatnik player installed for either nn4x or IE.
Go to http://www.beatnik.com/emix/index.html and click on one of the artists to
launch a thing called an eMix.

When you get to the eMix page that has the qwerty layout, start clicking on the
buttons.  No outline in nav4 or IE.  But in moz, each click leaves a border
around the clicked image (you'll have to take my word for it since the 4x plugin
doesn't work in moz and the xpcom plugin is still under development).

Comment 5

[David Baron :dbaron: (⌚️UTC-4, no longer working on Mozilla)]

Is the outline not erasing when the link is no longer focused?

Comment 6

[Blake Ross]

That works fine

Comment 7

[Blake Ross]

With the added exception of your bug 15439

Comment 8

[rods (gone)]

David,
The main problem with outlines not repainting and all the grief we went though. 
was that they were painting on the outside of the 
frame. Now that -moz-outlines are painting on the inside of the frame there 
shouldn't be any problems.
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Also, this feature was extrememly important for Accessability. Having focus on 
links for Accessability far outweighs the uglyness of having it.

In the future went might be able to have pref to turn them off, but at the 
moment we are short on time. futuring

Comment 9

[Kevin McCluskey (gone)]

Dividing up claytons bugs to triage.

Comment 10

[gerardok]

massive update for QA contact.

Comment 11

[benjamin mooney]

suggestion for more visually-appealing ways of displaying border.
make border color the same as alink color, set the padding of the border to 1 to
give some room betwen the link and the border, set the line type to dotted or
make it thinner.

Comment 12

[Hixie (not reading bugmail)]

You can set the outline to be whatever you like, just hack your userContent.css
file. We should relnote that maybe.

Comment 13

[Gervase Markham [:gerv]]

Hixie: Do we really want user release notes about hacking .css files? Marking 
relnote-devel for now...

Gerv

Comment 14

[Hixie (not reading bugmail)]

RELEASE NOTE ITEM:
   To disable borders around links, insert the following into    
   the 'userContent.css' file in your profile's chrome directory 
   (you may have to create this file): 

      :link:focus, :visited:focus { -moz-outline: none ! important; }

Comment 15

[David Baron :dbaron: (⌚️UTC-4, no longer working on Mozilla)]

Does that still work, or do we implement link outlines differently now?

Comment 16

[Hixie (not reading bugmail)]

It works (tested).

Comment 17

[Kevin McCluskey (gone)]

Marking fixed since it can be addressed with relnote specified by Ian 'Hixie'
Hickson.

Comment 18

[Loco]

Reopening because 99.999% of the population will not be incliined to go into 
their user.css files to change something like that.  Myself included.

Comment 19

[Matthew T (active 1999-2002)]

Perhaps, but 99.999% of users won't care that there are outlines around clicked 
links, and the intersection between that 99.999% and your 99.999% will be very 
high.

Comment 20

[Loco]

Touche.  Interesting point, kinda makes sense...

Comment 21

[Hixie (not reading bugmail)]

Reassigning QA Contact for all open and unverified bugs previously under Lorca's
care to Gerardo as per phone conversation this morning.

Comment 22

[bsharma]

qa contact updated.

Comment 23

[Heikki Toivonen (remove -bugzilla when emailing directly)]

SPAM. HTML Element component is deprecated, changing to Layout component. See
bug 88132 for details.

Comment 24

[Heikki Toivonen (remove -bugzilla when emailing directly)]

Come on Bugzilla, you can do it...

Comment 25

[Kevin McCluskey (gone)]

Build moving all existing future-P3 bugs to future-P4.

Comment 26

[Christopher Hoess (gone)]

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 32818 ***

Comment 27

[Hixie (not reading bugmail)]

VERIFIED DUPLICATE... good catch :-)