583673 - Omnibus ad-blocking bug for August 2010

Status: RESOLVED FIXED

(Camino Graveyard :: Annoyance Blocking, defect)

Description

[Smokey Ardisson (offline for a while; not following bugs - do not email)]

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Comment 1

[philippe (part-time)]

Another tracker .swf:
http://www3-cdn.effectivemeasure.net/v3/em.swf

(and also www5.effectivemeasure.net/v3/em.swf)

seen on individual articles on http://gulfnews.com/
http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/crime/no-us-help-requested-in-al-mabhouh-case-police-1.591193

Comment 2

[Smokey Ardisson (offline for a while; not following bugs - do not email)]

For whatever reason, these don't always stick around on a reload, but on http://twitpic.com/2bp8lt

<div id="view-photo-ad"><iframe src="http://twitpic.com/ad_box.html">

Comment 3

[Pierre Rudloff]

I sometime see an ad on this page : http://www.leconjugueur.com/
iframe[src*="tracking.drive2media.com"] will block it.

Comment 4

[Pierre Rudloff]

And I still see huge ads on Newgrounds.
They can be blocked using object[data*="server.cpmstar.com"], as suggested in bug 557471.
By the way, div[class="popadtext"] blocks the text ads under each game.

Comment 5

[Smokey Ardisson (offline for a while; not following bugs - do not email)]

On http://news.discovery.com/animals/oyster-herpes-deaths-tied-to-global-warming.html there are some Google ads that I'm not really sure we can zap by id:

div[id="google-afc-region-one"]

Comment 6

[Smokey Ardisson (offline for a while; not following bugs - do not email)]

As a follow-up to bug 580256:

[02:00am] ardissone: hmm
[02:01am] ardissone: did we try blocking the AdBriteIntermissionAdIframe iframe?
[02:02am] ardissone: from my generated source (which I can't get working now), it looks like that's the actual "ad content"
[02:02am] phiw: I don't think so.
[02:03am] ardissone: so even if we only block it (and leave the "this is an ad" stuff), it would be a better experience
[02:03am] ardissone: unless we're already blocking it…

Comment 7

[[e-mail]]

Ad-block seem to prevent VGTV movies from loading.
Example: http://www.vgtv.no/?id=31738

Not reproducible every time, but reload a couple of times if needed.

Comment 8

[philippe (part-time)]

(In reply to comment #7)
> Ad-block seem to prevent VGTV movies from loading.
> Example: http://www.vgtv.no/?id=31738

The video is loaded inside an iframe (I guess to glue together the video ads)
<iframe width="754" height="475" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" src="http://www.vgtv.no/api/?do=iframe&amp;id=31738&amp;width=754&amp;height=475&amp;videobefore=31280&amp;beforeurl=http%3A//ads.vg.basefarm.com/RealMedia/ads/click_lx.ads/www.vg.no/video/nyheter/84140043/x41/OasDefault/vg_aha_vgtv_200710/aha_video.html/63626235333966653463376166323530&amp;videoafter=31280&amp;afterurl=http%3A//ads.vg.basefarm.com/RealMedia/ads/click_lx.ads/www.vg.no/video/nyheter/84140043/x41/OasDefault/vg_aha_vgtv_200710/aha_video.html/63626235333966653463376166323530" style="border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "></iframe>

blocked by:
iframe[src*="/ads."]
iframe[src*="/ads/"]
iframe[src*="/RealMedia/ads/

note the 'afterurl' and 'beforeurl'

Comment 9

[Smokey Ardisson (offline for a while; not following bugs - do not email)]

Attachment: August omnibus ads

(In reply to comment #1)
> Another tracker .swf:
> http://www3-cdn.effectivemeasure.net/v3/em.swf
> 
> (and also www5.effectivemeasure.net/v3/em.swf)

Ultimately philippe and I couldn't get the actual code for that swf, since it only appeared for philippe when Flashblock was on (never for me at all), and when it wasn't blocked by Flashblock, it didn't get inserted into the page!? :P  philippe decided that's one for script-blocking to handle.

(In reply to comment #3)
> I sometime see an ad on this page : http://www.leconjugueur.com/
> iframe[src*="tracking.drive2media.com"] will block it.

We never saw this, but stuck the rule in anyway (that's an ad network).

(In reply to comment #4)
> And I still see huge ads on Newgrounds.
> They can be blocked using object[data*="server.cpmstar.com"], as suggested in
> bug 557471.

Never managed to see that this time around, either, but put in a rule for it nonetheless.

(In reply to comment #6)
> As a follow-up to bug 580256:
> 
> [02:01am] ardissone: did we try blocking the AdBriteIntermissionAdIframe
> iframe?
> [02:02am] ardissone: from my generated source (which I can't get working now),
> it looks like that's the actual "ad content"

Blocking that works nicely; the ad part of the unblockable overlay gets blocked, so the experience is better.

(In reply to comment #7)
> Ad-block seem to prevent VGTV movies from loading.
> Example: http://www.vgtv.no/?id=31738
> 
> Not reproducible every time, but reload a couple of times if needed.

There's no good, generic way to unblock those movies; Kai, your best bet is to make an @-moz-document exception in your own stylesheet.

philippe also pointed out some unblockable ads on The Independent, and while those were not blockable, I got those annoying Kontera hover ads again (Flash this time!), so we added an additional rule to block this version of them:

div[id^="kona_"]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/nefertiti-recipient-of-the-worlds-first-successful-facelift-2083297.html

(We were reluctant to use just "kona" for fear of catching something else, so we kept the existing rule and added the new one.)

Comment 10

[philippe (part-time)]

(In reply to comment #9)
> (In reply to comment #7)
> > Ad-block seem to prevent VGTV movies from loading.
> > Example: http://www.vgtv.no/?id=31738

> 
> There's no good, generic way to unblock those movies; Kai, your best bet is to
> make an @-moz-document exception in your own stylesheet.

@-moz-document domain(vgtv.no) {
iframe[src*="/ads."],
iframe[src*="/ads/"],
iframe[src*="/RealMedia/ads/"] {display:inline !important;}
}

works fine.

Comment 11

[Stuart Morgan]

Comment on attachment 476609 [details] [diff] [review]
August omnibus ads

sr=smorgan

Comment 12

[Smokey Ardisson (offline for a while; not following bugs - do not email)]

http://hg.mozilla.org/camino/rev/68121a1c9df9

Comment 13

[Smokey Ardisson (offline for a while; not following bugs - do not email)]

CAMINO_2_0_BRANCH for 2.0.5.