604020 - (fx40-p12n-uk) [uk] Firefox 4.0 productization review for Ukrainian

Status: RESOLVED FIXED

(Mozilla Localizations :: uk / Ukrainian, defect)

Description

[Staś Małolepszy :stas]

As you might have seen in the newsgroups or on the Mozilla blog, there's a couple of changes to search engines planned for the 4.0 release for en-US: <http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.l10n/msg/81073d8d67e1c4c3>. We would like to use this opportunity to review the current productization setup for Ukrainian and make any changes that you think will be good for our users.

What is a productization review?
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Here's what we're interested in:
* search engines,
* protocol handlers,
* feed readers,
* live bookmark.
You can see what your locale currently ships with at <http://hg.mozilla.org/l10n/l10n-src-verification/file/default/reference/browser/2.0/uk>

Please take a moment and review the choice of services available by default in your locale. If there have been any new services that have recently gained popularity and that offer good value for the users, please suggest adding them to your locale. On the other hand, if there are services that lost credibility (e.g. display too many adds) or have poor user experience, consider suggesting that we remove them. If in doubt, feel free to make a suggestion and we'll look at it together. You might find the guidelines at <https://wiki.mozilla.org/L10n:Productization> and <https://wiki.mozilla.org/L10n:Firefox/Productization> helpful, too.

Required changes
================

There's two things I would like to draw your attention to (if applicable):

1) if you have a google.xml file in your `searchplugins` directory, please remove it,

2) Bloglines is closing down on November 1st and we need to remove it from the feed reader options for all locales (see bug 595485). We suspect that it will make sense to move Google Reader up to the first position (if your locale has it). We will be offering technical help with this change, either in form of ready-made patches or a mass-landing by one of the l10n-drivers. If you don't think that moving Google Reader up is a good idea for your locale, please let us know!

Changes in en-US and en-GB
==========================

Here's the changes that we will be making in en-US and en-GB:
* add Bing as the 3rd general search engine (see bug 603298),
* remove Answers,
* remove Creative Commons.

We're making these changes in en-US and en-GB because we feel that they follow the recent market trends and user preferences in the US and the UK. We would like to go through the same thought process for your locale and see if any of these changes would make sense in Ukrainian builds as well. If you decide that implementing these changes would be in your users' best interest then please go ahead and include them in the patch you'll attach to this bug.


Implementation
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Please make suggestions for changes and attach patches that Seth, Axel or I will review. Please note that since Bing provides a global plugin which does the locale detection itself, you will only need to add "bing" to your list.txt if you decide to include it. The XML file will be automatically pulled from en-US.

Once a review is granted, you can land the patch on l10n-central if your locale actively maintains it. Otherwise, please wait for further instructions which will be put in the comments of this bug and announced in mozilla.dev.l10n (we're still unsure when the branching will happen). Please do not land any changes except for the required ones (google.xml, Bloglines) on 1.9.2.

If you do not wish to make any changes, let us know, and we'll only work on removing Bloglines.

Thanks!

Comment 1

[Seth Bindernagel]

Hi guys, Can you take a look at this bug and attach any patches to take care of suggested changes?  We are closing in rapidly on a final release of Firefox 4 and all changes should be submitted and landed before then.  Thanks!

Comment 2

[Tim Babych]

Attachment: Removal of I.UA search engine

One of the changes wanted here is removal of I.UA search engine, as it currently does not provide own search results, but uses Yandex.ru engines.

Comment 3

[Tim Babych]

Attachment: Meta.ua has suggestions now

Meta.ua search engine now supports suggestions, this patch adds it to shipped search engine.

Comment 4

[Tim Babych]

Attachment: change domain mail.yandex.ru to mail.yandex.ru

Mail.Yandex.RU service now is also available as Mail.Yandex.UA. While the service is the same, UA domain seems more appropriate here.

Comment 5

[Tim Babych]

Also after internal discussion it was agreed to replace Hotline price search with Market.Meta.ua because it has Ukrainian interface.

Comment 6

[Seth Bindernagel]

Comment on attachment 510036 [details] [diff] [review]
change domain mail.yandex.ru to mail.yandex.ru

To make this change, you will also need to amend the line 

gecko.handlerService.defaultHandlersVersion

in the region.properties file by incrementing it by 1.  The new line should say

"gecko.handlerService.defaultHandlersVersion=3"

See the l10n note pasted at the very bottom of this message and in the file itself at this URL:

http://hg.mozilla.org/l10n-central/uk/file/default/browser/chrome/browser-region/region.properties#l30

# increment this number when anything gets changed in the list below.  This will
# cause Firefox to re-read these prefs and inject any new handlers into the 
# profile database.  Note that "new" is defined as "has a different URL"; this
# means that it's not possible to update the name of existing handler, so 
# don't make any spelling errors here.

Comment 7

[Seth Bindernagel]

(In reply to comment #5)
> Also after internal discussion it was agreed to replace Hotline price search
> with Market.Meta.ua because it has Ukrainian interface.

Have you had a chance to chat with Market.Meta.ua?  Can you prepare the open search plugin XML patch?  You should email Market.Meta.ua and share with them the patch, telling them you plan to include them in Firefox 4 and that you will need them to confirm that this is OK.  Search partners often like to amend the XML file so that they can add a param to it that identifies searches coming from the Firefox user agent.  Please send me the email that they send to you confirming that they are OK with this change.  

Thanks, Tim!  Let's get this done ASAP.  We are nearing final ship.

Comment 8

[Volodymyr V. Flyonts]

Hi, 
I'm developer at meta.ua, web search dep. I spoke with our CTO about Market.Meta.ua search plugin in Firefox 4 and can confirm that this is OK.

OpenSearch plugin for Market.Meta.ua available at  http://meta.ua/addons/search/market-opensearch.xml 
and I hope Tim can prepare the XML patch for Firefox 4 based on it
Favicon available at http://market.meta.ua/favicon.ico

and I'll be happy to help and answer all questions.

Comment 9

[Seth Bindernagel]

Thanks!  Tim, please proceed by preparing the patch an flag me for a review.

Comment 10

[Tim Babych]

Attachment: removal of i.ua, hotline, added metamarket, meta suggestions, updated yandex icon

This patch includes all of the mentioned above changes, and also updates Yandex icon to newer one (they changed their favicon recently)

Comment 11

[Seth Bindernagel]

Comment on attachment 513746 [details] [diff] [review]
removal of i.ua, hotline, added metamarket, meta suggestions, updated yandex icon

This looks OK to me.  Can you please check this into l10n-central.  Since there are a number of changes in this patch, I recommend you test everything you have changed before signing off.  You will need to sign off on Pike's sign off application.  

Upon check-in, can you add a comment that says the following, "Bug 604020: Productization changes for FF 4."

If testing goes well, please sign off and then resolve this bug as fixed.

Comment 12

[Tim Babych]

Thanks, Seth. Checked in.

http://hg.mozilla.org/l10n-central/uk/rev/19cceb431dce

Comment 13

[Axel Hecht [:Pike]]

Resolving this, from all I can tell this should be FIXED by now.

Tim, feel free to close bugs that are dealt with yourself.