617692 - JAWS - CK Editor - JAWS - Firefox does not export the bullet type to IA2

Status: VERIFIED WORKSFORME

(Core :: Disability Access APIs, defect)

Description

[Frank DiPalermo]

User-Agent:       Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; Trident/4.0; SLCC2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; Tablet PC 2.0; MALC)
Build Identifier: Firefox 4 Beta

JAWS cannot properly read the bullet type.

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1.Open the CK Editor.
2.Create several lines of a bulleted list.
3.Shift one of the lines to the next indent level.
4.Note that the shape of the bullet changes, but Firefox does not export the bullet shape to IA2 Attributes.  Therefore, JAWS cannot read the bullet type correctly.
Actual Results:  
JAWS announced the wrong bullet type.

Expected Results:  
The type of bullet should be exported to the IA2 attributes list correctly.

N/A

Comment 1

[alexander :surkov (:asurkov)]

Frank, what kind of IA2 attributes are expected to expose bullet type? Firefox 4 exposes bullet text in accessible name, the name differs depending on bullet type (fixed in bug 557795).

Comment 2

[alexander :surkov (:asurkov)]

(In reply to comment #1)
> Frank, what kind of IA2 attributes are expected to expose bullet type?

I see - http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/accessibility/iaccessible2/objectattributes#List

Comment 3

[alexander :surkov (:asurkov)]

Should we export list attributes on list item accessible, not the bullet accessible?

Comment 4

[Marco Zehe (:MarcoZ)]

(In reply to comment #3)
> Should we export list attributes on list item accessible, not the bullet
> accessible?

Interesting question: Some of these sound like they would best apply to the text, others sound like they belong to the list bullet accessible. For example the level can apply to both, but the type would strictly belong to the list bullet accessible.

Note that Symphony may not actually have list bullet accessibles, so they may expect everything to be on the list item accessible.

Comment 5

[Frank DiPalermo]

From Frank on 12/9/20101:
Brett and I did some testing this morning with the following results:
1. Bullets at level 1 show a bullet character in the static text.
2. Bullets at level 2 show a question mark in the static text.
3. Bullets at level 3 also show a question mark in the static text.

Comment 6

[alexander :surkov (:asurkov)]

Frank, what does 'show' mean here?

Comment 7

[Frank DiPalermo]

From Frank on 12/9/2010:
Show means that I see that character in the MSAA Name Property of the bullet object.

Comment 8

[alexander :surkov (:asurkov)]

(In reply to comment #7)
> From Frank on 12/9/2010:
> Show means that I see that character in the MSAA Name Property of the bullet
> object.

Could it be a the way how your tool presents Unicode characters?

Comment 9

[Frank DiPalermo]

That could be true.  Do you believe that Firefox sends unique characters?  If so, what are the unique characters.

Comment 10

[alexander :surkov (:asurkov)]

(In reply to comment #9)
> That could be true.  Do you believe that Firefox sends unique characters?  If
> so, what are the unique characters.

see http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/annotate/19b83d59edbf/layout/generic/nsBlockFrame.cpp#l102

static const PRUnichar kDiscCharacter = 0x2022;
static const PRUnichar kCircleCharacter = 0x25e6;
static const PRUnichar kSquareCharacter = 0x25aa;

(In reply to comment #1)
> Firefox
> 4 exposes bullet text in accessible name, the name differs depending on bullet
> type (fixed in bug 557795).

correct bug number is bug 604587

Comment 11

[alexander :surkov (:asurkov)]

Frank, do we have anything to fix here?

Comment 12

[Frank DiPalermo]

Alex, on 12/3/2010, Brett wrote the following:
With the FF nightly trunk build from 12/3/2010, I do see a different bullet
type if I change the bullet using the right click on a list item and selecting
a differett bullet.  
I don't see a different bullet type for different list levels though, visually,
are these different bullets?
Has anything changed or is there still no change from level to level?

Comment 13

[alexander :surkov (:asurkov)]

I see different bullets visually and in accessible name for nested lists. Mark as worksforme. Frank please reopen it if you can reproduce.

Comment 14

[Frank DiPalermo]

From Frank on 3/15/2011:
Yes, thank you Alex.  I see and hear the bullet change now for different levels.

Comment 15

[alexander :surkov (:asurkov)]

ok, great. thank you.

Comment 16

[Marco Zehe (:MarcoZ)]

See comment #14.