Closed Bug 100095 Opened 23 years ago Closed 18 years ago

Bugzilla header including mascot.

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(Bugzilla :: Bugzilla-General, enhancement, P4)

2.15
enhancement

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RESOLVED WORKSFORME

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(Reporter: CodeMachine, Unassigned)

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We should ship default graphics that emphasise Bugzilla's indentity as distinct
from Mozilla's and mozilla.org's.  These would appear in the default header.

We need a mascot.
Please draw Buggy the bug, our new mascot!
We must have buggy! 
I need details of this "buggy" character.  :-)

Does he look like a spider?

Or a praying mantis?

Or models for RAID in his spare time?
Buggy is a bug.  Buggy is not under existing copyrights.  That is all we yet
know about Buggy.
OK, the question is whether the mascot should be named "Bugzilla", "Buggy" or
something else.

Some projects have the mascot take their name (eg Mozilla) whereas some don't
(eg Tux for Linux).  Bugzilla would seem to be the obvious choice but I think
Buggy would be better as it would distinguish between the product and the mascot
in conversation.

Terry has indicated our mascot is female.  That idea seems to have consensus on
IRC.
So do we call it bugerina (female) then?
*** Bug 100982 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Priority: -- → P4
Target Milestone: --- → Future
Bugella? Buggeroff? Bugina?

Gerv
I envisioned a stinkbug with contrasted lines (orange-red, white, and black), to 
keep with the mozilla.org design scheme.  I rather like continuity, since I 
don't think neon lime and pink go well with the overall site design.

I've got some sketches for a mascot.  I, personally, would rather keep the 
(mozilla.org-font) bugzilla logo, as I mentioned in my reason above.

As for male/female, I'd say this bug's a hermaphrodite.  And its name is 
"buggy v.2.0,"  No need to change what the world already knows about :-)
I rather like Kiko's, although it might be nicer on a plain white background. Is
this discussion appropriate here or in the newsgroup?

Gerv
buggie (searching) =~ s/searching/swatting/;
Let's keep discussion in here, I don't see any reason to fill the newsgroup 
(which should have technical details) with this stuff.
wasn't dawn going to paste in some of meep's sketches?
dawn needs to digicam it - or could someone else, with a scanner?
I have the scanner, but no drawings, maybe someone can stick them in 
front of the fishcam for a little while so we can see ;)
Why not just use a Volkswagen Beetle? ;)
I saw the entry called "photoish icon ... want to mod" and thought the graphic
looked great. So I grabbed the existing mozilla.org header graphic, took out
everything except the 'saur head piece, put a variation on the above graphic on
the opposite side, and slapped Bugzilla's name on top of it all. Okay, it
probably looks horrible :) But it might inspire something better or serve as a
starting point. .xcf available if needed.
Pretty much the same as the first variation; instead of alpha-blended text on
top of the background graphic, every other line of the text is erased to reveal
contents underneath. Same font though. Hope it helps.
William, these look very cool (and justdave said so too) - want to elaborate on
them? Maybe not cut the bug on the right, and perhaps do some colour variations
so MattyT doesn't complain so much?
Complain?  I have no problem with these drawings artistically.

What I didn't like was firstly that there isn't really a concept of a 'bugzilla
mascot', I think there has to be a face for that.

I also didn't really like using the Mozilla mascot here.  I presume mozilla.org
will continue to use it for their bugzilla (in addition to Buggy), but I don't
think we want it for the standard header.  Part of this is about establishing a
separate identity for the project (the other part is about giving us something
to put on a Bugzilla t-shirt).
A brand new, from scratch, first-run image. Say hello to Bagujira.

I have a few concepts left I might pursue....

The only real problem with this particular concept, IMHO, is the "hollywood
effect".... some people may be as unfomortable with this image as hollywood is
with putting explosions in the current batch of movies. Either way, I love
zilla movies, and this is my first contribution to bugzilla outside of
expanding the user base.
I worked on another attempt last night that might be better appreciated. I'm
not sure where we want to go with this so I'm basically randomly designing
here.
Attached image bugz logo 1
Hi, I just came across Bugzilla.  I'm a graphic designer and a tech friend of
mine recommended this software.  I saw you are looking at a logo and couldn't
help myself!  I tried to get the idea of many bugs, targetting them with the
circles coz its tracking software and a friendly central bug in strong black
line style to work okay with Mozilla.	If you like this, let me know - I can
get a print quality one for you.

Mike
I really like bugz logo (attachment 72343 [details])
Sweet! Could we have a large version of just the main bug in the image?
Summary: Bugzilla Header → Bugzilla header including mascot.
This last logo is awesome; I vote we use it (and move on to solving this bug
permanently).
We'll need a longer, thinner, more banner-like version, but yes. That last is
great. (We'll also need the original vector/layered version.)

Gerv
The above looks good and certainly worth using, however I would like to at least
see meep's mascot before deciding.  Dawn?

Also we would need to get the appropriate licensing issues dealt with before
using it.  I know they are having problems with licensing issues over the
Mozilla mascot, I don't know whether that is because the mascot was in use
before the licensing issues were brought up, or whether it is something
different entirely that doesn't really apply to us.
Absolutely. If the person were to grant the Bugzilla Team an irrevocable,
worldwide, sublicensable, blah blah to the image, that would probably do. I
don't think it really matters that the team isn't a legal entity.

(Actually, some of the Mozilla issues, with the company who owns the Godzilla
trademark, affect Bugzilla as well, and Bugzilla had to be included in the deal
which fixed it. So I hear.)

Gerv
Hi,  

I'm happy to grant any license/copyright in the image I have produced.  Just 
let me know the wording you'd like me to use...  

If someone has the pixel size of the banner you need, let me know and I can 
knock up one that size for review.

Also - I'd rather wait for a final decision before producing a 'proper' logo - 
ie a tidied, vector version for all applications as this is a bit more work.

Finally a question: (forgive me for being a novice at this) how is a decision 
actually reached?

:)

Mike

justdave@syndicomm.com, the Bugzilla Benevolent Dictator and this bug's
assignee, has final say. Dave? :-)

Gerv
I would also really like to see meep's artwork before making a decision.

Dawn, if you are having trouble getting it scanned, snail them to me, I can scan
them.
So, lets do this. Did we ever get meep's artwork?
Target Milestone: Future → Bugzilla 2.18
Severity: normal → enhancement
Yeah, you got my artwork, but I'm thinking of even better ones!  Sigh.  I'll try
and send a digital version this week.
Attached image bug with blue body and orange wings (obsolete) —
first attempt, clean, simple :-)
second attempt, includes mozilla red/orange/black :-D
third attempt, merge attempts 1 and 2 :-(
reposting.  this is a gif to replace the original png.	IE displays a grey, 
instead of transparent, background for png's. :-\
Attachment #118742 - Attachment is obsolete: true
If you want an idea of how Attachment 118744 [details] could be used on a remodelled
bugzilla homepage, then check out
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130835#c65
scratched that itch, now I'm done.
Unless Mozilla's broken, that doesn't look animated...
> Unless Mozilla's broken, that doesn't look animated...

It animates at the 15 sec and 20 sec marks, then returns to the 0 sec mark. The
goal was to create a simple design using (not so) subtle colours (mozilla's
black/orange/red) and a animation that *only* enhances the perception of
"buggishness."  I prefer longer delays to help cut the distraction animated gifs
cause.

This was more of a personal exercise and may very well be inappropriate for the
needs of buzilla.org. However, I've shared it here and I'm more than willing to
make any required changes if buzilla.org wishes to use it.

Can we hold off further discussion until mlum has attached her logo? :-)

Gerv
ahhh...  that's subtle, I was just impatient :)
Enhancements which don't currently have patches on them which are targetted at
2.18 are being retargetted to 2.20 because we're about to freeze for 2.18. 
Consideration will be taken for moving items back to 2.18 on a case-by-case
basis (but is unlikely for enhancements)
Target Milestone: Bugzilla 2.18 → Bugzilla 2.20
Bugzilla 2.20 feature set is now frozen as of 15 Sept 2004.  Anything flagged
enhancement that hasn't already landed is being pushed out.  If this bug is
otherwise ready to land, we'll handle it on a case-by-case basis, please set the
blocking2.20 flag to '?' if you think it qualifies.
Target Milestone: Bugzilla 2.20 → Bugzilla 2.22
(In reply to comment #57)
> Bugzilla 2.20 feature set is now frozen as of 15 Sept 2004.  Anything flagged
> enhancement that hasn't already landed is being pushed out.  If this bug is
> otherwise ready to land, we'll handle it on a case-by-case basis, please set the
> blocking2.20 flag to '?' if you think it qualifies.

What does this mean?  And are we ever going to see 'meeps designs'?  I think
they were mentioned only THREE YEARS AGO!!!

Mike
oh, my mistake

i see there is already a bugzilla logo that has nothing to do with this bug,

hey ho...
sorry.  life decisions and personal crises kept meep from presenting her design.
 however, now that I have a handy-dandy canon scanner, and the memory chip that
contains the damn art I drew in 2003, I can finally work on this (also after
quitting my job and finding the time!).

Anyway, while there's someting on the website already, I'm still going to submit
something, whether you like it or not!
I've got some designs now (at long last).  If a header needs to be added, I can
redo these and append to the header, as well.

The following attachments (6) pertain to the mascot/logo..
by meep - can also re-render in PNG if requested
by meep; can re-render in PNG if requested, along with remaining designs..
Attached image more serious look
by meep
Attached image symmetrical b+w.
by meep
by meep
Attached image lastly, multicolor
by meep.  sorry for all the spam!  can't attach more than one attachment per
attempt (isn't that an enhancement request?)
Attachment #171008 - Attachment mime type: text/plain → image/gif
Reassigning bugs that I'm not actively working on to the default component owner
in order to try to make some sanity out of my personal buglist.  This doesn't
mean the bug isn't being dealt with, just that I'm not the one doing it.  If you
are dealing with this bug, please assign it to yourself.
Assignee: justdave → general
QA Contact: mattyt-bugzilla → default-qa
Target Milestone: Bugzilla 2.22 → ---
What about the image here:

http://www.bugzilla.org/

? It seems this bug is a WORKSFORME. If not - poster, reopen and explain.
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 18 years ago
Resolution: --- → WORKSFORME
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