100695 - Does not support Copy-Paste extension (mac)

Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX

(Core :: XUL, defect)

Description

[John F. Mayer]

Copy-Paste is a popular third-party extension that allows copying or pasting of
several items to the clipboard simultaneously. Mozilla does not seem to support it.

Comment 1

[Greg K.]

Reporter, please provide the Build ID of the Mozilla build you're testing against, and also 
describe in more detail what Copy/Paste is and how it and Mozilla are not working 
together. Also provide a URL for Copy/Paste.

Comment 2

[timeless]

a url would be very helpful.

Comment 3

[John F. Mayer]

The CopyPaste site provides a good description of the extension's features.
I've been using it so long I tend to think of it as part of the system;
feel hamstrung without it. CopyPaste works fine with 9.1, though I've
had this version for several years. Url below:

<http://www.scriptsoftware.com/index.html>


Build: 2001080214


P.S. Ironically, I just absent-mindedly tried to use CopyPaste to paste
in the URL above. Had to type it in.

Comment 4

[Greg K.]

Reporter, can you briefly describe how CopyPaste and Mozilla are not working together? 
Provide reproduceable steps, expected behavior, and actual behavior. Thanks.

Comment 5

[Greg K.]

The CopyPaste distribution contains a document, "To Application Programmers!" that 
may be of at least some use in reference to this bug. It speaks about Mac programming 
with respect to the Clipboard in general.

Will attach, FWIW..

Comment 6

[Greg K.]

Attachment: "To Application Programmers!" document included in CopyPaste distribution

Comment 7

[John Morrison]

Clipboards? Mac? Only one man for this ... pinkerton.

Comment 8

[Mike Pinkerton (not reading bugmail)]

i have no idea what to do with this. i read the document attached and mozilla
conforms to all 6 problem areas. Not sure what else we're supposed to do.

can i get some more background on how this thing works and how it's different
from normal clipboard operations?

Comment 9

[Matthew Judy]

I'd contact the developer directly at this point.  I'm sure there's more than 6 
gotchas.

Comment 10

[John F. Mayer]

------- Additional Comments From Mike Pinkerton 2001-09-28 11:06 -------

Pinkerton requested:
> can i get some more background on how this thing works and how it's 
> different from normal clipboard operations?

Whereas the normal clipboard records but one item at a time, CopyPaste 
provides the option of copying up to 100 items, graphics or text, in sets of 
ten by either drop-down menus or keyboard commands. It also contains a 
number of extraneous features, such as converting text to all caps, 
date-stamping, etc (many's the time I've been stamped by my date). I am 
posting this via IE (I know, it pains me) and CopyPaste is functioning just 
fine.

Comment 11

[Mike Pinkerton (not reading bugmail)]

but that doesn't help to tell me how mozilla isn't playing well with this
extension. what internally w/in the toolbox is going on, or needs to go on, that
mozilla isn't doing right?

Comment 12

[Steve Dagley]

The Mozilla source is open so why can't the Copy-Paste developers look at it and 
post what needs to be done for compatability?

Comment 13

[John F. Mayer]

Peter Hoerster <[e-mail]> one of CopyPaste's creators, had this to say:

Netscape 6.1 is a carbon program. CarbonLib has some problems with the
clipboard.  I recently found out that the CarbonLib which ships with OS
9.2.1 solved the problems I had. The version of theis CarbonLib is 1.4. I
think the latest version is 1.5 You should try any later version to see
whether your problems persist. Currently I have not tried Netscape 6.1
Peter

Comment 14

[Andrew Thompson]

No it isn't a Carbon program. At least not usually. The Mac OS X release is a 
Carbon program, and of course, that means you *could* run it on Mac OS 9 if you 
want, but the regular Mac OS 9 version that 99% of people will be using on OS 9 
is just a regular old Mac app (InterfaceLib).

Comment 15

[Mike Pinkerton (not reading bugmail)]

we're not carbon on 9. we're only carbon on X. kinda shoots a hole in that theory.

Comment 16

[John F. Mayer]

Boy, is my face red!

Comment 17

[Bjarne D Mathiesen]

I've had problems with CopyPaste & mozilla too:
when pasting several clipboards into a text-area, only the first three ones got
shown although all of them actually got entered. this was an issue with 0.9.4
but has disappeared in all versions of 0.9.5

Comment 18

[Bjarne D Mathiesen]

How CopyPaste works:
1) it assigns a history to the normal clipboard
2) it expands the clipboard with ten sets of ten clipboards. you switch between
   the individual sets each of which are available one at a time
3) in the "edit" menu each of the normal menu-items for copy, paste & cut 
   get a sub-menu through which you can access the clipboard-history
   and the current extra clipboard-set
4) you can create two floating palettes
   - one each for the history and the current set

Mozilla interacts with CopyPaste this way :
a) the sub-menus as described in 3) above aren't present
b) the floating palettes as described in 4) above work perfectly

Comment 19

[Matthew T (active 1999-2002)]

So, this is a menus problem. Is there some sort of flag Mozilla is supposed to
be giving the `Cut'/`Copy'/`Paste' items in the menu struct, so that Copy-Paste
knows which items to attach the submenus to?

Comment 20

[R.K.Aa.]

*** Bug 141946 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 21

[Mike Pinkerton (not reading bugmail)]

fffffffuture

Comment 22

[Simon Paquet [:sipaq]]

This bug is targeted at a Mac classic platform/OS, which is no longer supported
by mozilla.org. Please re-target it to another platform/OS if this bug applies
there as well or resolve this bug.

I will resolve this bug as WONTFIX in four weeks if no action has been taken.
To filter this and similar messages out, please filter for "mac_cla_reorg".

Comment 23

[Simon Paquet [:sipaq]]

Mac classic problem, dead platform

-> WONTFIX