1010054 - "TitleTime" Windows program causes an overlap of the title into the menubar when the titlebar is disabled

Status: RESOLVED INVALID

(Firefox :: General, defect)

Description

[Fritz Jörn]

User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 (Beta/Release)
Build ID: 20140506152807

Steps to reproduce:

Using the title bar (topmost, blue background) as menu bar as well, i. e. saving vertical space.


Actual results:

The original writing of the title bar (e. g. "Enter A Bug - Mozilla Firefox … " overlaps the commands (File, … ). A non-useable mishmash.


Expected results:

Just allow the commands in the menu to appear at the RIGHT (not left justified), right before the Windows knobs to resize the program. Then we’d have no overlap of the writing.

Comment 1

[:Gijs (he/him)]

Can you provide a screenshot of what you mean? I don't see this conflict between the menu and the titlebar.

Also, can you reproduce this issue without any add-ons installed? (you can use the help menu's "restart with add-ons disabled" item to check)

Comment 2

[Fritz Jörn]

Attachment: Screenshots of upper left with menu line on but invisible (covered)

Comment 3

[Fritz Jörn]

Attachment: upper left with menu off, bit more spacious

Comment 4

[Fritz Jörn]

Attachment: bit too pressed?

Comment 5

[Fritz Jörn]

Attachment: Old view with menu, ok, but no space saved

Note that I use "TitleTime", but in principe that doesn't change the issue.

Comment 6

[:Gijs (he/him)]

(In reply to Fritz Jörn from comment #5)
> Created attachment 8422456 [details]
> Old view with menu, ok, but no space saved
> 
> Note that I use "TitleTime", but in principe that doesn't change the issue.

Perhaps not, but I'd still like you to do what I suggested in comment #1:

(In reply to :Gijs Kruitbosch from comment #1)
> Also, can you reproduce this issue without any add-ons installed? (you can
> use the help menu's "restart with add-ons disabled" item to check)

as I can't reproduce this issue. :-)

Comment 7

[Fritz Jörn]

Attachment: When arraning look commands are inactive

Perhaps I was confused that the commands didn't click in this case. Had I opened another tab, they would habe been active.

Comment 8

[Fritz Jörn]

Attachment: While changing look

Same problem, confusion as commands barely visible.
 I still think, placing (optionally?) the commands to the right might allow saving one title bar. So maybe it’s an improvent suggestion.

Comment 9

[:Gijs (he/him)]

(In reply to Fritz Jörn from comment #8)
> Created attachment 8423007 [details]
> While changing look
> 
> Same problem, confusion as commands barely visible.
>  I still think, placing (optionally?) the commands to the right might allow
> saving one title bar. So maybe it’s an improvent suggestion.

I'm confused. Are you now saying that without the add-on (without add-ons altogether), there's no conflict anymore?

Comment 10

[Fritz Jörn]

Attachment: Overlap due to TitleTime

You are right, but it’s not an add-on that produces the overlap but the system wide separate old program "TitleTime", see picture, see http://www.jumaros.de/rsoft/index.html. If I turn off TitleTime the look is fine, the program name disappears in the blue topmost line, and the commands are there and clickeable. I'm sorry. Still I think allowing both program title as customary, plus your commands - these then on the right within the bar - would be practical. Greetings,

Comment 11

[Michelle Funches - QA]

@Reporter: Is this still an issue? If yes, please provide:
current Operating system
current Firefox version
detailed steps to reproduce

Comment 12

[Fritz Jörn]

Here I’m back in 2016. Good Year to All. The "bug" still exists, but is in fact due to TitleTime. So no issue, perhaps a small improvement idea. – Another topic (sorry): Whom or where can I suggest to add a parameter like #findcontent( … ) to the end of a URL to directly send the browser to search for just this content and mark it? Without a "name" tag in the source. Like http://blogabissl.blogspot.com/2015/08/gelegenheit-und-reue.html#findcontent(Cuius) would bring you to http://blogabissl.blogspot.com/2015/08/gelegenheit-und-reue.html#Cuius, even if there’s not "name=" entry.

Comment 13

[:Gijs (he/him)]

We don't know if "TitleTime" is running or writing things into the menubar, and the source code of "TitleTime" is not available, so it isn't possible for us to fix this issue. We can't make the menubar shift for everyone, because everybody else would wonder what's up with the big space to the left of the menubar. :-)

As a workaround, it seems it's possible to disable TitleTime on a per-window-class basis, so you could disable it for Firefox.

Comment 14

[:Gijs (he/him)]

(In reply to Fritz Jörn from comment #12)
> Another topic (sorry): Whom or where can I suggest to add a parameter like
> #findcontent( … ) to the end of a URL to directly send the browser to search
> for just this content and mark it? Without a "name" tag in the source. Like
> http://blogabissl.blogspot.com/2015/08/gelegenheit-und-reue.
> html#findcontent(Cuius) would bring you to
> http://blogabissl.blogspot.com/2015/08/gelegenheit-und-reue.html#Cuius, even
> if there’s not "name=" entry.

I think this would be best done by an add-on -- it would be incompatible with the web to add our own magic meaning to a URL like that in all cases. You could ask on the add-ons discourse forum ( https://discourse.mozilla-community.org/c/add-ons ) if anybody knows of an add-on that does something like this.