1019725 - [cy] Search engine setup for Firefox Mobile for Welsh.

Status: RESOLVED FIXED

(Mozilla Localizations :: cy / Welsh, defect)

Description

[Jeff Beatty [:gueroJeff]]

We want to ship Firefox Mobile with a good list of search engines for Welsh. 

We're going to work towards this in three phases. First, the localization team and the l10n drivers will look at the market for the language and come up with a good set of search providers. Rhoslyn, we'll need your input on this, the guidelines for making recommendations are on <https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Productization_guide>. 

For en-US, we currently use this set, to which we can fall back in the case of lacking localized alternatives:

> Google (mobile version), Yahoo, Bing, Amazon, Twitter, Wikipedia (slightly different to desktop, 32x32 icon)

We may also want to go with just a subset of the en-US engines, if that's more appropriate for the local market.

Once we decide to use a particular search engine (and we test it on a mobile device), l10n drivers will contact the owner and ask for permission, and for specifics like proper search flags. Rhoslyn, we'll likely need your help to at least get the contact information.

For search engines that we already ship with on desktop and that you would like to include in mobile as well, the permission is not needed.  Consider using a mobile version of the engine if one is available.  Also, please make yourself familiar with instructions regarding the <Description/> element at <https://wiki.mozilla.org/L10n:Integrated_Search_Instructions>. For mobile, we'll want 64x64 size images, too.

Once we have a specification on what the search engines for Welsh should look like, flod (Francesco Lodolo) and the localization team will work on an implementation on that. flod will create and attach patches for the desired changes and get them reviewed. After a successful review, flod will land them. Rhoslyn, if you're interested, you could create the patches, too. You'd ask flod for review on those before landing. 

Please don't commit any modifications in browser/searchplugins to the hg repository without a patch reviewed by flod, Stas, Axel or someone else appointed by the l10n drivers. The data here is sensitive to users and our search partners, thus the extra care here.

The Welsh team and flod will be driving this bug to completion.

Comment 1

[Jeff Beatty [:gueroJeff]]

Hi Rhoslyn,

I should also note that Mozilla has entered into search agreements with Microsoft and Yahoo in order to provide a wider variety of search options to users. Could we add Bing and Yahoo to that list?

Comment 2

[Jeff Beatty [:gueroJeff]]

Hi Rhoslyn,

Just a friendly reminder that this needs attention soon.

Thanks,
Jeff

Comment 3

[Rhoslyn Prys]

Thanks for the reminder - the World Cup can be too engrossing, it's affecting productivity :-/

There ar no specific search engines provided primarily for Welsh speakers. 

The Welsh Wikipedia is at http://cy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hafan
Two search providers have some Welsh in their UI - Google ( www.google.co.uk and www.google.com )for their desktop version but not the mobile app and DuckDuckGo ( https://duckduckgo.com/ ) desktop but not the mobile app. Both desktop versions would be valuble additions to the list. 

The othe providers Yahoo ( https://uk.yahoo.com/ ), Bing ( http://www.bing.com/?cc=gb ), Amazon ( http://www.amazon.co.uk/ ),have local uk websites but no Welsh content. 

Twitter has a Welsh translation in the works but has not released it yet. I would wish all of these to be included. 
Rhos

Comment 4

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

OK, so the list would be:
Amazon (uk)
Bing
DuckDuckGo
Google
Wikipedia
Yahoo (uk)

I'll get a patch ready for this.

Comment 5

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

Attachment: bug1019725v1.patch

region.properties: add Yahoo and Bing to search.order, restore l10n note, add Netvibes since it's shipping on desktop

searchplugins: Amazon and Yahoo are already shipping with en-GB, DuckDuckGo on gd/es-MX

Comment 6

[Jeff Beatty [:gueroJeff]]

Thanks for the quick response Rhos!

Comment 7

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

Thanks, landed
http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/l10n/mozilla-aurora/cy/rev/611684783c34
http://hg.mozilla.org/l10n-central/cy/rev/611684783c34