103010 - make news servers closed on startup, don't do any NNTP on startup.

Status: VERIFIED FIXED

(SeaMonkey :: MailNews: Message Display, defect, P2)

Description

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in 6.x, if the news server are open on start up, we go update the counts for 
you.  we remember if they were open from the last session.

updating the unread counts means talking to the server adding doing a GROUP 
command for each group the user is subscribed to.

In 4.x, news servers were always shown as closed at startup, and on expand, 
we'd update the unread count.

the 4.x is more "server friedly" as it doesn't ping the server at startup.

another issue with the way 6.x works is that contacting the news server can 
throw UI.

if the server requires auth, we might be putting up the auth dialog.  (though I 
think we skip if we don't have a password remembered.)

but if the server is secure, we do through a dialog about certificates

sfraser writes:  "that's really confusing when I think i'm connecting to my 
IMAP server"

Comment 1

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the benefit of doing the group commands (on open servers) is that we'll update 
the unread counts for the user.  

like 4.x, we also update the unread counts when the twisty opens.

Comment 2

[scottputterman]

I think it's worth doing something to make it clearer what's going on.  I often
find myself in a situation where can't connect to server error dialogs come up
and I think they are for mail when they are really for news.  Assuming we keep
updating counts on startup we should make sure that anything that pops up or
displays on the status bar lets you know where it's coming from.

Comment 3

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I'm going to switch back to the 4.x approach.

it's affecting start up time

Comment 4

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I'm going to switch back to the 4.x approach.

it's affecting start up time.

Comment 5

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Attachment: switch back to the 4.x approach.

Comment 6

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Attachment: updated patch

Comment 7

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Attachment: patch

Comment 8

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Uh, isn't this really bug 34591?

Comment 9

[David :Bienvenu]

Comment on attachment 55697 [details] [diff] [review]
patch

sr=bienvenu

Comment 10

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I'm not sure that this is the same as #34591, you'll have to check with 
tenthumbs.

Comment 11

[varada]

Comment on attachment 55697 [details] [diff] [review]
patch

r=varada

Comment 12

[Sean Su]

Comment on attachment 55697 [details] [diff] [review]
patch

r=ssu too

Comment 13

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fixed.

Comment 14

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Verified FIXED.

Mac OS 9.1 - 2001-11-01-08
Windows 2K - 2001-11-01-03
RedHat 7.2 - 2001-11-01-12

When opening a server in the folder pane, and exiting the app, upon relaunch, we
default back to the closed state, and using netstat, I've verified that we don't
do any network traffic to the news servers.

Comment 15

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*** Bug 123029 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 16

[Aleksey Nogin]

Bug 123029 is an RFE to reverse this for NNTP accounts that have biff turned on
- if a user has biff turned on and the account used to be shown as expanded,
it's a good bet that the user would actually want the server to be contacted on
startup and that the user actually wants the server to be shown expanded...

Currently, the first thing I do whenever I start Mozilla is go and expand 3 NNTP
accounts - pretty annoying...

Comment 17

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See http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34591, also.

Comment 18

[Peter Lairo]

I too think the user will want his news accounts updated if he leaves the folder
open and/or he has biff set. Hooray for comment #16, and Hooray for bug 123029.