Closed Bug 103406 Opened 23 years ago Closed 22 years ago

UI "Ask Me" preference to allow popups & other JavaScript

Categories

(SeaMonkey :: UI Design, defect)

Product:
SeaMonkey
Component:
UI Design
Type:
defect
Priority:
Not set
Severity:
normal

Tracking

(Not tracked)

Status:
VERIFIED WONTFIX

People

(Reporter: nbidwell, Assigned: mpt)

References

(Blocks 1 open bug)

Details

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(1 file)

Popup Manager In The Sidebar Idea
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Details 
Broken off from bug 75371, where people keep asking for an "Ask Me" preference
for JavaScript functions.  Once there is a back end, it'll need UI.

Doron, since you have bug 75371 I'm giving this to you.  Feel free to reassign it.
Depends on: 103405
Confirming, this is not UID, trying b-general
Status: UNCONFIRMED → NEW
Component: User Interface Design → Browser-General
Ever confirmed: true
This is _too_ UID.  We need a design for UI for accessing this functionality.  
Once we have that, this goes to XP Apps: GUI.
Assignee: doronr → mpt
Component: Browser-General → User Interface Design
Component: User Interface Design → XP Apps
Popup Manager In The Sidebar Idea Key

I tried to use items that are already in the browser to represent the Popup Manager.

The Folders represent open windows, that YOU have open manually.
The Green lights say it is OK to open the window automatically.
The Red Flags say NEVER open the Popup automatically.
If the fields are blank, user intervention is required, but by default the popup
will remain closed.

If the person likes they can manually open a popup by clicking on it in the
Popup Manager Site area. If the pop is open this will bring that window to the
foreground.

You can kill all open popup by selecting the desired windows in the list and
pressing the delete key.

Underneath the list is additional information about the site.

Additional information will give stats on the popup, size of window, location of
window, etc? just fun stuff.

Open will open the window, and Don?t open will not open the window.

The check box 

I have also included the option to block ALL popup coming from a selected site.

If you have any other questions feel free to ask.

The back end for this, bug 103405 has been resolved WONTFIX.  Is this bug still
valid?
Mathew: Take a look at bug 114994: A sidebar for denied popup windows. This bug
is about an ask-me pref. I think your attachment for the sidebar popup manager
would go better there :-)
Since no-one has piped up with any reasons to keep this bug open, and the back
end doesn't look like its happening, INVALID
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 22 years ago
Resolution: --- → INVALID
"because no-one has a good reason to keep it open" is not a good 
reason to resolve a bug invalid. If it a duplicate, resolve it a duplicate. 
Otherwise, keep it open until there is a reason to close it.
Status: RESOLVED → REOPENED
Resolution: INVALID → ---
zach, this bug depends (really depends, not fake depends as we have sometimes( 
on a WONTFIX bug.  This strongly suggests that WONTFIX would be the right thing 
to do here...
The other bug (bug 103405) was wontfixed for poor reasons. Please keep this bug
open until that issue can be properly discussed and hopefully remedied.
Well, I asked over a month ago if this bug was still valid or not and didn't get
a reply...  Anyone who has a problem with the backend being WONTFIX'd should
probably deal with it in bug 103405.  (This bug is *completely* useless if
103405 isn't fixed.)  But have it your way if you'd like.
Bleh. Alerts are evil, and a popup window offering you the choice of blocking a 
popup window would be oxymoronic. Or just moronic. Or both. See 103405 comment 
5. Marking invalid.
Status: REOPENED → RESOLVED
Closed: 22 years ago → 22 years ago
Resolution: --- → INVALID
There is no reason to have a dialog to see if people want a dialog to 
come up. You can allready turn off new windows completely, being able to 
do it on a site-by-site basis (your bank can use new windows in online 
banking if you want them too, but not elsewhere) would be nice, but that 
isn't the idea of this bug report. verif
Status: RESOLVED → VERIFIED
*** Bug 136750 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Hum, konqueror 3 has this function, i have used it during a week and i find it
VERY usefull.
You said open a dialog to ask for a popup to open is an oxymoron, i don't agree.
A dialog is light, a popup can be very slow to load, to display, and can lead to
a pop-up hell.
Blocking pop-up on a site-by-site basis could be an option, but this is not the
ultimate way: on many sites that i know, pop-ups are ads on some page and
usefull fonction on an other page from the same website.
Try-it in konqueror and you will be convinced (i hope).
What back-end support does this need? I thought we already had prefs.js control
over site use of javascript? There shouldn't be anything else needed in the back
end, should there? I guess the one thing it needs is a place to store the
settings, as having the UI add rules to the prefs.js seems wrong...
Is there anything else needed?
This bug isn't going to fixed. Should be WONTFIX, not INVALID. People still 
interested in notification, see bug 114994 - popup sidebar.
WONTFIX is the proper resolution. 
See bug 114994 for a continuation of this bug. 
Also, take a look at bug 148689 (I'm currently searching for a dupe).
Status: VERIFIED → REOPENED
Resolution: INVALID → ---
This bug is WONTFIX because replacing a popup with a popup is something we are
not going to do. But the bug still exists that people don't know whether a popup
has been blocked, therefore people should be alerted in a better way.
Status: REOPENED → RESOLVED
Closed: 22 years ago → 22 years ago
Resolution: --- → WONTFIX
If the "Ask Me" window stores the user-decision on a per-site basis, then the
user would only be annoyed once, and then could custom-decide which sites could
and couldn't have popups - without *ever* being asked again. A very flexible
tool. No? REOPEN?
The equivalent can be done with bug 148689 without getting an annoying alert. We
are moving away from alerts for warnings (such as when URLs cannot be found),
and this would be moving backwards.


Anyway, Peter: Do you know how many different sites there are that have popups?
People are going to get this alert so often if the setting is stored
independently for each site via a "Don't ask again" pref on the alert it will
drive them crazy. Its worse having an alert than a popup because they are harder
to get rid of and you can't ignore them because currently they are modal.
As explained in my comment #15, i find that an "ask" dialog is very useful (you
must give Konqueror 3 a try !). Could it be possible to implement it as an
option, for users like me who like this behaviour in konqu 3 ?
No.
Status: RESOLVED → VERIFIED
This is probably a different (yet highly related) bug:

There needs to be a way to permit certain useful sites (e.g., netscape webmail)
to open popups. 

I tend to agree that *denying* a large number of sites just to enable a _few_ is
too annoying. We probably should do it the other way around: Have a list of
allowed sites, very similar to "edit / preferences / mail & newsgroups / SEND
FORMAT --> HTML Domains. That way the user could copy&paste the domain into that
pref and be able to use a site that has useful popups.

To allow some finetuning, it may be useful to consider the *depth* of the URL
address. So that if the user enters: "http://ncmail.netscape.com" everything AT
and BELOW that level can display popups.

Have I lost my marbles? Should this be a new bug? Can we morph this bug?

BTW. RE comment #22: it is *easier* to get rid of an alert because you just hit
<Return> and the dialog goes away (while storing the setting - never to be
bothered again). popups are windows that must be closed via aiming at the "x"
and clicking it; and they will come back *every* time you visit that site.
About comment #25:
The problem with the per-site blocking, is that i know some site where some
pop-ups are ads, and some others are useful. In konqueror 3, when i see the
"ask" dialog, i know (based on the context), which pop-ups are usefuls and which
are not. 
About the nature of pop-ups, i must add that some pop-ups leads to what some
calls a "pop-up hell"== a pop-pup that opens 10 other pop-ups, all very long to
download,  with flash, sounds.....
Correction: comment #25 was about "per-site *allowing* - not "blocking". That
way, you can deny all popups (in "scripts & plugins" pref), and create
*exceptions* where you want to allow them (since this will be *much* rarer).
Blocks: popups
Product: Core → Mozilla Application Suite
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