1060489 - yahoo.fr - some devices receive an old version with comments, some a modern without

Status: RESOLVED WORKSFORME

(Web Compatibility :: Site Reports, defect)

Description

[nguyen_d2000]

User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/31.0 (Beta/Release)
Build ID: 20140716183446

Steps to reproduce:

Hi
When I downloaded Firefox Android for my tablet. It works but when I use firefox to go to the url www.yahoo.fr to read an article. I remark the Commentary field below doesn't appear. 


Actual results:

I remark than the Commentary field doesn't appear. Then I can't write my commentary on an article of yahoo.fr.


Expected results:

If I use firefox or others navigators on windows of PC computer (XP or Windows 7 or Linux). Then I can have this Commentary field appears normally. And I can write my commentary on this field.

Can you help me to fix and to solve this problem , Please. Thanks.  
I hope to have a next version of Firefox on Android.

Comment 1

[Kevin Brosnan [Ex-Mozilla]]

This sounds like a website bug. Firefox renders the page that Yahoo sends to us.

Comment 2

[Karl Dubost💡 :karlcow]

On Desktop, Firefox receives the comments and the comment box.

For any mobile browsers UA strings (emulated on Desktop), the users do NOT receive comments and comment box under the article, like it is happening on desktop. Tested also on iOS device and Android devices, behavior consistent in between different browsers.

On a Desktop browser emulating Tablets UA, I receive for ipad, Galaxy tab, and Firefox Android Tablet, the same type of content adjusted for tablet without comments under the article.

I think Yahoo! has just decided to not display comments on Mobile and Tablet for any browsers.

@nguyen_d2000
Is there a mobile or tablet browsers where comments are available?
(Est-ce qu'il y a un appareil mobile ou une tablette où les commentaires sont disponibles ?)

Comment 3

[nguyen_d2000]

Hi
Thanks to answer me.
Today I can try on  a Nokia smartphone that works on Windows Phone OS. On this Nokia mobile smartphone I tried www.yahoo.fr on its browser. The commantary field of the artile appears normally under the article and I can write on this field and post it.
I remark the COMMANTARY field works on Windows Phone OS and not on ANDROID OS.

Best regards. Thanks to read my mail.

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Bug 1060489: Firefox Android no Commentary on Yahoo
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1060489

Comment 4

[Karl Dubost💡 :karlcow]

Do you receive the mobile or the desktop version of the site on Windows Phone OS?
Could you go to http://echo.opera.com/ with 
1. Android OS
2. Windows Phone OS

and copy the line which starts with "User-Agent:"

Thanks that would help.

Comment 5

[Karl Dubost💡 :karlcow]

I think I start to understand what is happening.
We do not receive the same Web site, and I'm not sure upon which criteria.

When typing http://www.yahoo.fr/, we are redirected first to https://fr.yahoo.com/

Case 1. (Modern version, no comments)
Then there is a menu, if you click on "Actualités"  in the new version, the URL doesn't change: https://fr.yahoo.com/ 
When clicking an article, the url change to the one of the article, Example: 
https://fr.yahoo.com/news/immeuble-seffondre-%C3%A0-rosny-bois-au-moins-enfant-065036627.html
There is no possibility to get comments.

Case 2. (Old version, with comments)
When from the home page you reach the page for Actualités. https://fr.news.yahoo.com/ you get a less modern mobile design.
I haven't figured out what's triggering this.
You do not get the same  URI either once the news has been clicked.
https://fr.news.yahoo.com/immeuble-seffondre-%C3%A0-rosny-bois-au-moins-enfant-065036627.html?.b=index&.cf3=France&.cf4=1&.cf5=AFP&.cf6=%2F
This link has a bottom link to articles.

This happens whatever the browser, so it doesn't seems specific to Firefox. It would be an interesting case for WebCompat. 


I will send the information to Yahoo!, but I have the feeling it is a business decision of Yahoo!

Comment 6

[nguyen_d2000]

Hi 
I will try to test the url :  http://echo.opera.com/  on Android and Windows Phone. 
Then I will copy the line which starts with "User-Agent:".

But what would you want I will have to do after to copy this line ?
Where shall I past it or stock it ? 

Thanks.

Comment 7

[Karl Dubost💡 :karlcow]

Ah sorry I wanted you to paste it here in the comments. So we know what is the configuration you are reaching Yahoo! with. :) Yahoo! has a very sensitive set of servers which send different versions to different devices and places.

Comment 8

[nguyen_d2000]

Good Morning,
I can try on a tablet with Android with your url : http://echo.opera.com/ 
The results are below for you, thanks and good continuation :


Host:    echo.opera.com
User-Agent:    Mozilla/5.0 (Android; Tablet; rv:31.0) Gecko/31.0 Firefox/31.0
Accept:    text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8
Accept-Language:    fr,fr-fr;q=0.8,en-us;q=0.5,en;q=0.3
Accept-Encoding:    gzip, deflate
Connection:    keep-alive
If-None-Match:    "d10b10a303e4a0abe556748012e47567;gzip"
Raw request

  0: 47 45 54 20 2f 20 48 54 54 50 2f 31 2e 31 0d 0a  GET / HTTP/1.1..
10: 48 6f 73 74 3a 20 65 63 68 6f 2e 6f 70 65 72 61  Host: echo.opera
20: 2e 63 6f 6d 0d 0a 55 73 65 72 2d 41 67 65 6e 74  .com..User-Agent
30: 3a 20 4d 6f 7a 69 6c 6c 61 2f 35 2e 30 20 28 41  : Mozilla/5.0 (A
40: 6e 64 72 6f 69 64 3b 20 54 61 62 6c 65 74 3b 20  ndroid; Tablet;
50: 72 76 3a 33 31 2e 30 29 20 47 65 63 6b 6f 2f 33  rv:31.0) Gecko/3
60: 31 2e 30 20 46 69 72 65 66 6f 78 2f 33 31 2e 30  1.0 Firefox/31.0
70: 0d 0a 41 63 63 65 70 74 3a 20 74 65 78 74 2f 68  ..Accept: text/h
80: 74 6d 6c 2c 61 70 70 6c 69 63 61 74 69 6f 6e 2f  tml,application/
90: 78 68 74 6d 6c 2b 78 6d 6c 2c 61 70 70 6c 69 63  xhtml+xml,applic
a0: 61 74 69 6f 6e 2f 78 6d 6c 3b 71 3d 30 2e 39 2c  ation/xml;q=0.9,
b0: 2a 2f 2a 3b 71 3d 30 2e 38 0d 0a 41 63 63 65 70  */*;q=0.8..Accep
c0: 74 2d 4c 61 6e 67 75 61 67 65 3a 20 66 72 2c 66  t-Language: fr,f
d0: 72 2d 66 72 3b 71 3d 30 2e 38 2c 65 6e 2d 75 73  r-fr;q=0.8,en-us
e0: 3b 71 3d 30 2e 35 2c 65 6e 3b 71 3d 30 2e 33 0d  ;q=0.5,en;q=0.3.
f0: 0a 41 63 63 65 70 74 2d 45 6e 63 6f 64 69 6e 67  .Accept-Encoding
100: 3a 20 67 7a 69 70 2c 20 64 65 66 6c 61 74 65 0d  : gzip, deflate.
110: 0a 43 6f 6e 6e 65 63 74 69 6f 6e 3a 20 6b 65 65  .Connection: kee
120: 70 2d 61 6c 69 76 65 0d 0a 49 66 2d 4e 6f 6e 65  p-alive..If-None
130: 2d 4d 61 74 63 68 3a 20 22 64 31 30 62 31 30 61  -Match: "d10b10a
140: 33 30 33 65 34 61 30 61 62 65 35 35 36 37 34 38  303e4a0abe556748
150: 30 31 32 65 34 37 35 36 37 3b 67 7a 69 70 22 0d  012e47567;gzip".
160: 0a 0d 0a               



(For Windows Phone, I will try to give you after because I don't have the Windows Phone for the moment.)

Comment 9

[nguyen_d2000]

Good Morning
This is the results tested on a Smartphone Nokia 625 under Windows Phone :  http://echo.opera.com/

GET / HTTP/1.1Remote: 89.84.127.33 7421Accept: text/html, application/xhtml+xml, */* Accept-Language: fr-FR User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 10.0; Windows Phone 8.0; Trident/6.0; IEMobile/10.0; ARM; Touch; NOKIA; Lumia 625) UA-CPU: ARM Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate Host: echo.opera.com DNT: 1 Via: 1.1 bg3g_prx (squid/3.1.23) X-Forwarded-For: 80.215.129.180 Cache-Control: max-age=259200 Connection: keep-alive --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Raw request  0: 47 45 54 20 2f 20 48 54 54 50 2f 31 2e 31 0d 0a  GET / HTTP/1.1.. 10: 41 63 63 65 70 74 3a 20 74 65 78 74 2f 68 74 6d  Accept: text/htm 20: 6c 2c 20 61 70 70 6c 69 63 61 74 69 6f 6e 2f 78  l, application/x 30: 68 74 6d 6c 2b 78 6d 6c 2c 20 2a 2f 2a 0d 0a 41  html+xml, */*..A 40: 63 63 65 70 74 2d 4c 61 6e 67 75 61 67 65 3a 20  ccept-Language:  50: 66 72 2d 46 52 0d 0a 55 73 65 72 2d 41 67 65 6e  fr-FR..User-Agen 60: 74 3a 20 4d 6f 7a 69 6c
6c 61 2f 35 2e 30 20 28  t: Mozilla/5.0 ( 70: 63 6f 6d 70 61 74 69 62 6c 65 3b 20 4d 53 49 45  compatible; MSIE 80: 20 31 30 2e 30 3b 20 57 69 6e 64 6f 77 73 20 50    10.0; Windows P 90: 68 6f 6e 65 20 38 2e 30 3b 20 54 72 69 64 65 6e  hone 8.0; Triden a0: 74 2f 36 2e 30 3b 20 49 45 4d 6f 62 69 6c 65 2f  t/6.0; IEMobile/ b0: 31 30 2e 30 3b 20 41 52 4d 3b 20 54 6f 75 63 68  10.0; ARM; Touch c0: 3b 20 4e 4f 4b 49 41 3b 20 4c 75 6d 69 61 20 36  ; NOKIA; Lumia 6 d0: 32 35 29 0d 0a 55 41 2d 43 50 55 3a 20 41 52 4d  25)..UA-CPU: ARM e0: 0d 0a 41 63 63 65 70 74 2d 45 6e 63 6f 64 69 6e  ..Accept-Encodin f0: 67 3a 20 67 7a 69 70 2c 20 64 65 66 6c 61 74 65  g: gzip, deflate100: 0d 0a 48 6f 73 74 3a 20 65 63 68 6f 2e 6f 70 65  ..Host: echo.ope110: 72 61 2e 63 6f 6d 0d 0a 44 4e 54 3a 20 31 0d 0a  ra.com..DNT: 1..120: 56 69 61 3a 20 31 2e 31 20 62 67 33 67 5f 70 72  Via: 1.1 bg3g_pr130: 78 20 28 73 71 75 69 64 2f 33 2e 31 2e 32 33 29  x
(squid/3.1.23)140: 0d 0a 58 2d 46 6f 72 77 61 72 64 65 64 2d 46 6f  ..X-Forwarded-Fo150: 72 3a 20 38 30 2e 32 31 35 2e 31 32 39 2e 31 38  r: 80.215.129.18160: 30 0d 0a 43 61 63 68 65 2d 43 6f 6e 74 72 6f 6c  0..Cache-Control170: 3a 20 6d 61 78 2d 61 67 65 3d 32 35 39 32 30 30  : max-age=259200180: 0d 0a 43 6f 6e 6e 65 63 74 69 6f 6e 3a 20 6b 65  ..Connection: ke190: 65 70 2d 61 6c 69 76 65 0d 0a 0d 0a              ep-alive....--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Page generated at Sun Sep 7 09:52:04 2014
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Comment 10

[Karl Dubost💡 :karlcow]

Thanks nguyen.

Yahoo! has filed the bug.

> This one was filed internally at #7129584.

Comment 11

[nguyen_d2000]

Good Morning Karl,

I would like to thank you for interesting and solving about my question of the bug. I hope Yahoo will fix as soon as possible. 

Thank you to have sended this question to Yahoo.

Comment 12

[Karl Dubost💡 :karlcow]

They still display two different versions of Yahoo! News

    https://fr.yahoo.com/
And https://fr.news.yahoo.com/

BUT both sites now do not authorize comments. I'm closing the bug.