1085209 - Please create a new mailing list: thunderbird-council

Status: RESOLVED FIXED

(mozilla.org Graveyard :: Server Operations, task)

Description

[Kent James (:rkent)]

+++ This bug was initially created as a clone of Bug #1071670 +++

This should ultimately be private to read, but will be public to receive with moderation. Please do not setup any access other than the basic email list itself (that is, no Google or Giganews). I believe though that I can set that all up myself in the admin interface once the basic list is created.

Please make me (Kent James <[e-mail]>) the admin.

Description: Mailing list for Thunderbird Council

Thanks!

Comment 1

[Ashish Vijayaram [:ashish]]

Please file this request through https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=mozilla.org&format=mozlist

Comment 2

[Ashish Vijayaram [:ashish]]

List created, detail sent over email. Please reopen if you have any issues. Apologies for the initial confusion!

Comment 3

[Gervase Markham [:gerv]]

> I believe though that I can set that all up myself in the admin interface once the basic list is 
> created.

You are wrong about that; if you want Google and Giganews integration, it needs to be included from the very start. Conversion later is not possible.

Gerv

Comment 4

[Kent James (:rkent)]

(In reply to Gervase Markham [:gerv] from comment #3)
> > I believe though that I can set that all up myself in the admin interface once the basic list is 
> > created.
> 
> You are wrong about that; if you want Google and Giganews integration, it
> needs to be included from the very start. Conversion later is not possible.
> 
> Gerv

What I meant is that any configuration of the email list itself (like who can send messages to it, or see member listings) I can setup myself. I do not need or want Giganews integration.

Comment 5

[Kent James (:rkent)]

Reopened per comment 2 "Please reopen if you have any issues"

I posted a couple of test messages to the list. They behaved as expected in email, but they are not appearing in the archives. Archive option is set on the list.

Are the archives delayed? Or disabled globally? That is, how can I get the archives to work? This list deals with governance, so we would like to have a private record of the discussions.

Comment 6

[Reed Loden [:reed]]

(In reply to Kent James (:rkent) from comment #5)
> Reopened per comment 2 "Please reopen if you have any issues"
> 
> I posted a couple of test messages to the list. They behaved as expected in
> email, but they are not appearing in the archives. Archive option is set on
> the list.
> 
> Are the archives delayed? Or disabled globally? That is, how can I get the
> archives to work? This list deals with governance, so we would like to have
> a private record of the discussions.

You're checking https://mail.mozilla.org/private/thunderbird-council ?

Comment 7

[Kent James (:rkent)]

> You're checking https://mail.mozilla.org/private/thunderbird-council ?

Right, and I see "No messages have been posted to this list yet, so the archives are currently empty." Yet I have posted and received two messages.

Comment 8

[Ashish Vijayaram [:ashish]]

Looking into this...

Comment 9

[Ed Lim [:limed]]

(In reply to Kent James (:rkent) from comment #7)
> > You're checking https://mail.mozilla.org/private/thunderbird-council ?
> 
> Right, and I see "No messages have been posted to this list yet, so the
> archives are currently empty." Yet I have posted and received two messages.

It's a permission issue, try again and it should be fixed

Comment 10

[Kent James (:rkent)]

I sent a message to the list. Now I see something at https://mail.mozilla.org/private/thunderbird-council, the usual archive page by month. But each of the links on those pages goes to an invalid page.

A typical link: (for October 2014 view by subject): https://mail.mozilla.org/private/2014-October/subject.html

(Which if course is incorrect).

Comment 11

[Ashish Vijayaram [:ashish]]

Missing the trailing / in the URL - https://mail.mozilla.org/private/thunderbird-council/

This is likely a configuration bug. For non-public archives, a 301 is issued if the trailing / is missing:

$ curl -I https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/thunderbird-testers
HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently
Location: https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/thunderbird-testers/

However for private archives, it doesn't redirect, messing up the base URL. FWIW https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/thunderbird-council contains the correct archives link.

Comment 12

[Kent James (:rkent)]

OK thanks for looking into this, I tested and can now see the archives starting from the page you suggested. If you can fix it, fine. But as long as the archives are there and accessible through one working link, that is sufficient for us. Access to archives is important but rare, and this is a small list.

Comment 13

[Ashish Vijayaram [:ashish]]

Yes, the link in Comment 11 is also present in the listinfo page, so it isn't a one-off.