1088535 - Restore communities that were deleted with bug 1084011

Status: RESOLVED FIXED

(www.mozilla.org :: Pages & Content, defect)

Description

[Oliver Propst]

User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:32.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/32.0 Iceweasel/32.0.3
Build ID: 20140925101002

Steps to reproduce:

Visit for exemple https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/contact/communities/ecuador/


Actual results:

There is not contact info, its basically a blank page.


Expected results:

Its confusing to link to a contact page that don't provide any contact information. I suggest to delete the pages that don't provide any contact information (in this case a number of countries). 

This would also include to remove the highlight of these countries from the map on top of the page.

Comment 1

[Oliver Propst]

Attachment: commit

Comment 2

[Oliver Propst]

Attachment: https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/pull/2412

Comment 3

[Craig Cook (:craigcook)]

CCing a few people who should weigh in on this.

The current PR proposes to remove these communities:

* Argentina
* Cuba
* Ecuador
* Uruguay
* Croatia

My concern is that it's unfair to symbolically erase these communities simply because we don't have more information to show. The community pages aren't just for contact information, they also serve as a central listing of all our active communities worldwide. I'd much prefer to solve this problem by filling in those mostly-empty pages with info instead of removing the pages entirely. 

Maybe we can send a renewed call out to folks in these communities to get some updated info?

Comment 4

[Jennifer Bertsch [:jbertsch]]

Hi-

Craig, I am in total agreement with you.

This is not a unilateral decision and the PR needs to be reversed asap.  I'm not entirely sure how this one got reviewed and pushed live, but it needs to be backed out.

The CBT team and the www.mozilla.org team have final say in which communities are listed here.

Thx,
Jen

Comment 5

[David Boswell]

Yes, please undo this change.  The better fix would be to reach out to the relevant communities and ask them to add more relevant details.

Comment 6

[Craig Cook (:craigcook)]

Attachment: Github pull request https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/pull/2432

With a bit of googling I was able to find at least one link for each of these communities so their pages are no longer empty. Win-win!

Comment 7

[Craig Cook (:craigcook)]

Since these pages were already removed with bug 1084011, I'm repurposing this bug to restore them. Description updated.

Comment 8

[Oliver Propst]

(In reply to Jennifer Bertsch [:jbertsch] from comment #4)
> This is not a unilateral decision and the PR needs to be reversed asap.  I'm
> not entirely sure how this one got reviewed and pushed live, but it needs to
> be backed out.
> 
> The CBT team and the www.mozilla.org team have final say in which
> communities are listed here.
Of course. 

Just want to be clear that I was asked to file the bug after a discussion on IRC, it was
obviously not me who pushed the changes live and it was not my intation to upset anyone by the pull request.

Comment 9

[Larissa Shapiro]

Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Requesting the assistance of regional community managers for South America (Guillermo Movia) and Europe (Brian King) as they will have specifics on best handling. It is very important that we try to improve this content before pulling it. Thanks!

Comment 10

[Guillermo Movia [:deimidis]]

Hi all, so sad to see those changes, being a member of Argentina's community :). Let me know which information we need for each country and where update that information and I will do it ASAP

Comment 11

[David Boswell]

(In reply to Craig Cook (:craigcook) from comment #6)
> With a bit of googling I was able to find at least one link for each of
> these communities so their pages are no longer empty. Win-win!

Craig, thanks for flagging this change and for adding in additional content for those communities.

Comment 12

[Craig Cook (:craigcook)]

(In reply to oliver.propst from comment #8)

> Just want to be clear that I was asked to file the bug after a discussion on
> IRC, it was
> obviously not me who pushed the changes live and it was not my intation to
> upset anyone by the pull request.

Understood, and please don't feel bad. You're right that those empty pages were useless as a place to find contact information, so in that sense it seemed perfectly logical to remove them. We've got some updated links now so we can put them back, no harm done. Thanks for your help!

Comment 13

[Guillermo Movia [:deimidis]]

Craig, besides your reasearch, I will add this for LATAM countries:

* Argentina
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mozilla.ar
mailing-list: https://listas.usla.org.ar/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mozilla-general

* Ecuador
https://www.facebook.com/groups/mozillaecuador

* Uruguay
https://www.facebook.com/mozillauruguay

Comment 14

[Jennifer Bertsch [:jbertsch]]

(In reply to Craig Cook (:craigcook) from comment #12)
> (In reply to oliver.propst from comment #8)
> 
> > Just want to be clear that I was asked to file the bug after a discussion on
> > IRC, it was
> > obviously not me who pushed the changes live and it was not my intation to
> > upset anyone by the pull request.
> 
> Understood, and please don't feel bad. You're right that those empty pages
> were useless as a place to find contact information, so in that sense it
> seemed perfectly logical to remove them. We've got some updated links now so
> we can put them back, no harm done. Thanks for your help!

Agreed.  Please don't feel bad, Oliver.  I am curious, however, who you were speaking with on IRC that wanted the pages removed so that I can follow up with them too.  Thanks!

Comment 15

[Craig Cook (:craigcook)]

(In reply to Guillermo Movia [:deimidis] from comment #13)
> Craig, besides your reasearch, I will add this for LATAM countries:

Thanks! Updated.

Comment 16

[Oliver Propst]

(In reply to Jennifer Bertsch [:jbertsch] from comment #14)
> I am curious, however, who you were
> speaking with on IRC that wanted the pages removed so that I can follow up
> with them too.  Thanks!
Have sent a private mail about it.

Comment 17

[[github robot]]

Commits pushed to master at https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock

https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/commit/aef759329f78fe051637b71ee118ce8074427987
Fix bug 1088535 - restore deleted communities

And add some new info

https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/commit/812a12c8ffb2c41470c619742e6a47fe2d2a586f
Merge pull request #2432 from craigcook/bug-1088535-restore-deleted-communities

Fix bug 1088535 - restore deleted communities