Closed Bug 113883 Opened 24 years ago Closed 23 years ago

"<HTML> Source" is not correct for translation - need better image

Categories

(SeaMonkey :: Composer, defect)

Product:
SeaMonkey
Component:
Composer
Type:
defect
Priority:
Not set
Severity:
normal

Tracking

(Not tracked)

Status:
VERIFIED FIXED
Milestone:
mozilla1.0.1

People

(Reporter: mkaply, Assigned: cmanske)

Details

(Whiteboard: [adt3 RTM][fixed in branch])

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(1 file)

patch v1
2.14 KB, patch
mkaply
: review+
hewitt
: superreview+
cmanske
: approval+
Details | Diff | Splinter Review
We received a complaint from France that the tab that says "<HTML> Source" is not correct grammar in other countries. Some countries say "Source <HTML>" We tried to tell them that <HTML> is just an image, but we see their point. We need a much better image for <HTML> that does not appear to convey information. For instance a page with a few HTML tags on it? It needs to not read as a phrase.
If we were to translate this, and we do, we translate only the source. I'm inclined to discount this. At best, we would have to rethink the structure of the other tabs as well, which as you point out are image, label.
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 24 years ago
Resolution: --- → WONTFIX
> If we were to translate this, and we do, we translate only the source. That is exactly the complaint from the countries. HTML Source makes sense in English, but in French, the phrase is Source De HTML, in Spanish, the phrase is Fuente Del HTML, in Portugese the phrase is Fonte Do HTML. So this toolbar button doesn't make sense in those languages. If that button is supposed to mean "Source" and not "HTML Source", then the icon should be different. Some icon that means "Source"
verified.
Status: RESOLVED → VERIFIED
I've been asked to reopen this by the translators (we are in a new trnalsation cycle) They want me to suggest other options. How about making the image <TAG> instead of <HTML>. Then it doesn't really say anything, but the image still conveys the right message?
Status: VERIFIED → REOPENED
Resolution: WONTFIX → ---
Charley--can't we make it possible for localizers to put the string before or after the image (or even text on both sides)?
What exactly is wrong with "HTML"? It actually is the top editable tag in source mode edit window! I don't see where "TAG" is any better
Assignee: syd → cmanske
Status: REOPENED → NEW
Target Milestone: --- → mozilla1.1alpha
The complaint from the translators is that when you look at it, it reads "HTML Source" In other languages, the correct phrasing is "Source HTML" I tried to argue that the <HTML> was just an icon, but that didn't really fly. So the idea is to either use soomething besides <HTML> so it doesn't read "HTML Source" or to allow a translator to move Source before HTML.
hmm. I've looked, but can't find any CSS to switch the position of the text and "list-style-image", the <html> image. Daniel: any ideas?
Attached patch patch v1 — — Splinter Review
What a neat trick! I leveraged our "bidi" support to make it possible to put the image to the right of the text. Is the comment in DTD file clear enough for translators to understand what to do?
Status: NEW → ASSIGNED
Keywords: nsbeta1, patch, review
Whiteboard: [adt3 RTM][FIX IN HAND][need r=,sr=]
Target Milestone: mozilla1.1alpha → mozilla1.0
Comment on attachment 81815 [details] [diff] [review] patch v1 sr=hewitt
Attachment #81815 - Flags: superreview+
Comment on attachment 81815 [details] [diff] [review] patch v1 r=mkaply Nice
Attachment #81815 - Flags: review+
checked into trunk new revision: 1.105; previous revision: 1.104
Status: ASSIGNED → RESOLVED
Closed: 24 years ago → 23 years ago
Keywords: patch, review
Resolution: --- → FIXED
Whiteboard: [adt3 RTM][FIX IN HAND][need r=,sr=] → [adt3 RTM]
Is this going on the 1.0 branch or on the post 1.0 release when Netscape takes over (it is marked adt3 RTM)
Keywords: nsbeta1 → nsbeta1+
Keywords: approval
Whiteboard: [adt3 RTM] → [adt3 RTM] [Needs a=]
adt1.0.0+ (on ADT's behalf) for approval to checkin to the 1.0 branch, pending Drivers approval. After, checking in, please add the fixed1.0 keyword.
Keywords: adt1.0.0
Charley, can you please verify this one ? thanks
This is test by changing from this: <!ENTITY SourceTabDirection "ltr"> to: <!ENTITY SourceTabDirection "rtl"> After that, the "<HTML>" icon should appear to the right of the "Source" text. So you have to be able to modify the files in the JAR to verify.
verified
Status: RESOLVED → VERIFIED
adding the adt1.0.0+ mention in Jaime's comment from Friday.
Keywords: adt1.0.0 → adt1.0.0+
changing to adt1.0.1+ for checkin to the 1.0 branch. Please get drivers approval before checking in.
Keywords: adt1.0.0+ → adt1.0.1+
Keywords: mozilla1.0.1
Target Milestone: mozilla1.0 → mozilla1.0.1
a=chofmann for 1.0.1
Keywords: mozilla1.0.1 → mozilla1.0.1+
Whiteboard: [adt3 RTM] [Needs a=] → [adt3 RTM] approved
Attachment #81815 - Flags: approval+
checked into mozilla1.0.1 branch
Keywords: mozilla1.0.1+ → fixed1.0.1
Whiteboard: [adt3 RTM] approved → [adt3 RTM][fixed in branch]
verified in 6/4 branch build.
Keywords: verified1.0.1
Keywords: fixed1.0.1
Product: Browser → Seamonkey
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