1178926 - [cak] Search engine setup for Firefox Mobile for Kaqchikel.

Status: RESOLVED FIXED

(Mozilla Localizations :: cak / Kaqchikel, defect)

Description

[Jeff Beatty [:gueroJeff]]

We want to ship Firefox Mobile with a good list of search engines for Kaqchikel. 

We're going to work towards this in three phases. First, the localization team and the l10n drivers will look at the market for the language and come up with a good set of search providers. Julio &amp; Juan, we'll need your input on this, the guidelines for making recommendations are on <https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Productization_guide>. 

For en-US, we currently use this set, to which we can fall back in the case of lacking localized alternatives:

> Yahoo, Bing, Google, Amazon, Twitter, Wikipedia (slightly different to desktop, 32x32 icon)

We may also want to go with just a subset of the en-US engines, if that's more appropriate for the local market.

Once we decide to use a particular search engine (and we test it on a mobile device), l10n drivers will contact the owner and ask for permission, and for specifics like proper search flags. Julio &amp; Juan, we'll likely need your help to at least get the contact information.

For search engines that we already ship with on desktop and that you would like to include in mobile as well, the permission is not needed.  Consider using a mobile version of the engine if one is available.  Also, please make yourself familiar with instructions regarding the <Description/> element at <https://wiki.mozilla.org/L10n:Integrated_Search_Instructions>. For mobile, we'll want 64x64 size images, too.

Once we have a specification on what the search engines for Kaqchikel should look like, flod (Francesco Lodolo) and the localization team will work on an implementation on that. flod will create and attach patches for the desired changes and get them reviewed. After a successful review, flod will land them. Julio &amp; Juan, if you're interested, you could create the patches, too. You'd ask flod for review on those before landing. 

Please don't commit any modifications in browser/searchplugins to the hg repository without a patch reviewed by flod, Stas, Axel or someone else appointed by the l10n drivers. The data here is sensitive to users and our search partners, thus the extra care here.

The Kaqchikel team and flod will be driving this bug to completion.

Comment 1

[Jeff Beatty [:gueroJeff]]

Hi Juan,

Flagging you to provide the needed feedback described above. There's no rush, we can also talk in more detail about this in Lima next weekend.

Jeff

Comment 2

[Juan Ajsivinac]

Hi all
I need to have these search engines to CAK
Google
Yahoo
Amazon
DuckDuckGo
Paginas Amarillas
Guatemala Digital
Mercado libre Guatemala
Wikipedia

Comment 3

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

8 searchplugins is definitely a high number for Android, we should try to settle around 6/7

> Paginas Amarillas
> Guatemala Digital
> Mercado libre Guatemala

To add brand new searchplugins we need authorization from the provider.

We're already shipping Mercado Libre in es-AR and es-MX, so I believe we're good there. For the other two the l10n team would need to get in touch with the provider, and it will take time. My suggestion would be to keep that for follow-up bugs if the teams thinks it's important.

Comment 4

[Jeff Beatty [:gueroJeff]]

Thanks for following up with this, Juan!

When flod says, "For the other two the l10n team would need to get in touch with the provider, and it will take time." he's asking you to please contact Páginas Amarillas and Guatemala Digital and request these two things:

1) Permission to add them to our product. This will direct traffic to their sites and they should be aware and be able to determine if they can handle that increase.
2) A 64x64 image of their logo.

While you do that, we can still ship the cak localization with the other search plugins and add these other two once they've given their approval. Would you like us to do that?

Comment 5

[Juan Ajsivinac]

perfect, then we discard the two: Paginas Amarillas and Guatemala Digital,

Comment 6

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

One more question: for Yahoo and Wikipedia there's no specific version. Is using the 'es' version OK? 

Unfortunately I'm having issues with Mercado Libre (Jeff, can you confirm if the one shipping with es-MX is working?). If we need to move this before merge day, we'll need to add it in a follow-up bug.

Comment 7

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

Issues with http://www.mercadolibre.com.gt
* It exposes a "MercadoLibre Panamá" that doesn't exist.

* Both search URLs used by es-AR and es-MX TLDs timeout 

* The main page seems obsolete
http://www.mercadolibre.com.gt

Compared to es-AR and es-MX
http://www.mercadolibre.com.mx
http://www.mercadolibre.com.ar

Comment 8

[Jeff Beatty [:gueroJeff]]

(In reply to Francesco Lodolo [:flod] from comment #6)
> One more question: for Yahoo and Wikipedia there's no specific version. Is
> using the 'es' version OK? 

'es' will have to do. There is no 'cak' for either.

> 
> Unfortunately I'm having issues with Mercado Libre (Jeff, can you confirm if
> the one shipping with es-MX is working?). If we need to move this before
> merge day, we'll need to add it in a follow-up bug.
Mercado Libre is working just fine in es-MX. I'm not getting any timeouts. The main page for http://www.mercadolibre.com.gt seems to be the generic template. Perhaps they've expanded to Guatemala recently and haven't set up a varied enough userbase there?

Comment 9

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

These are the search URLs I see

es-AR: 
http://www.mercadolibre.com.ar/jm/search?as_word=test&as_pr_categ_id&as_search_both=N

es-CL
http://pmstrk.mercadolibre.cl/jm/PmsTrk?tool=5666982&go=/jm/search%3fas_word=test%26as_search_both=N

es-MX
http://pmstrk.mercadolibre.com.mx/jm/PmsTrk?tool=5670527&go=/jm/search%3fas_word=test%26as_search_both=N

If I use the Guatemala TLD they both timeout
http://pmstrk.mercadolibre.com.gt/jm/PmsTrk?tool=5670527&go=/jm/search%3fas_word=test%26as_search_both=N
http://www.mercadolibre.com.gt/jm/search?as_word=test&as_pr_categ_id&as_search_both=N

My suggestion would be to keep out MercadoLibre, and get in touch with them to understand which URL should be used later.

Comment 10

[Jeff Beatty [:gueroJeff]]

Yeah, the Guatemala TLD times out for me too. I'll file the follow up bugs we're discussing here. I know Juan is most interested in getting the localization shipped, so let's land everything that we can and follow your suggestions for the rest.

Comment 11

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

Attachment: bug1178926.patch

Reusing Wikipedia and Yahoo from es-ES, standard values for mobile region.properties.

Comment 12

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

Landed
http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/l10n/mozilla-aurora/cak/rev/a9d90614f0f0