STR: 1. Load a Facebook profile page. I used my friend’s, oddly enough this does not reproduce on all Facebook profile pages 2. Scroll down to the bottom of the profile to trigger fetching of additional profile contents Expected: Chrome only shows the page-loading spinner during network requests, Edge and IE don’t change the tab area at all Actual: Firefox shows the spinner and repeatedly changes the page title to “Connecting...” which is bad UX imho Video: https://www.dropbox.com/s/hk1w09c4j3x1vvt/connecting_bug.mp4?dl=0
phlsa, what do you think?
The fact that chrome does it differently doesn't matter much here IMO, but the fact that you (vlad) find it distracting does. However, I don't think there's a right or wrong here since it's a personal preference. For instance, I like that Firefox spins the throbber when it accesses the network, and it's also an indication for why the page cannot be scrolled further while further data is being fetched (most pages have their own in-page "throbber thingy for that", but not all). Bottom line, it's not black and white IMO that it shouldn't spin while fetching data from the network.
This is really a question for UX, which is why I needinfo'd phlsa. Note also that this bug report is about the tab title repeatedly getting changed to "Connecting..", not about the tab throbber
I think we should definitely get rid of the word »Connecting« in those cases. It doesn't add any value and it's a lot more distracting than the icon change. The tab should just keep showing the page title.
Seems pretty obvious to me that the "Connecting…" text and connecting throbber should never be shown past initial page load. Although I'm not sure if there's some ancient reasoning for this, or if this is being caused by sub-resource / XHR loads leaking though to the top. First step here is probably looking at exactly why this is happening. We can limit this bug to just "connecting", although I think that showing the busy throbber after initial pageload also isn't great. While it might be useful for something like infinite scroll being stalled, I'd expect there are many other uses of XHR where it's not. Like, if I'm just preloading some set of data in the background, showing the user a throbber is very much not useful. Not clear that there's any way for the browser to tell the difference. And then it starts to branch out into other areas... Is this really wanting to be a general network-activity indicator, and is a prominent throbber the right UI for that? What about JS activity? Also, FWIW, there's been discussion of a spec to give sites that ability to control the indicator: see https://github.com/whatwg/fetch/issues/19 I'm not super keen on it, mostly because it means browser UI may seem inconsistent if some sites use it but others don't. Dao/Gijs: Any thoughts here?
I think it's far less common that users need to wait for JS activity than for network requests, so it's not all that obvious to me that removing the throbber is a good idea. Note that we also show the status panel at the bottom of the window, which may or may not be enough feedback after the initial page load. I do think "Connecting..." is unhelpful if not misleading. (We used to use "Loading..." as the label which I think made a bit more sense esp. after the initial page load.)
I concur with Dão and Philipp that we should get rid of "Connecting..." which is unhelpful as best. I personally would not remove the spinner, but I recognize that I am a technical user, and it might not be super helpful for regular users. On the flip side, most websites have some loading indicator when they are waiting for content, and if other browsers don't show any indication of this then perhaps we shouldn't either. (In reply to Dão Gottwald [:dao] from comment #6) > Note that we also show the status panel at the > bottom of the window, which may or may not be enough feedback after the > initial page load. FWIW, this does not consistently show up for me on the FB testcase from comment #1. Maybe because my network connection is too quick, maybe because we treat some requests differently from others - I'm not sure. I think for this bug we should just get rid of Connecting...; we can always remove the spinner in another followup bug.
Created attachment 8698214 [details] [diff] [review] Patch v.1 This should restrict the "Connecting" text to top-level loads. Fixes the Facebook case for me. (Jared last touched this in the vaguely-similar bug 709182.)
Would you consider to remove the “Connecting…” title when restoring pending tabs the tab title already set by SessionStore
(In reply to tabmix.onemen from comment #11) > Would you consider to remove the “Connecting…” title when restoring pending > tabs > > the tab title already set by SessionStore Please file a new bug for this.