1230580 - On localization dashboard, replace the link to Verbatim with a link to Pontoon

Status: RESOLVED FIXED

(support.mozilla.org :: Localization, task)

Description

[Lan Glad [:upwinxp]]

User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/43.0
Build ID: 20151201152349

Steps to reproduce:

1. Go to the Localization Dashboard: https://support.mozilla.org/localization
2. Under the "Overview" section hover "User Interface" with your mouse.
3. Click the "Help translate the interface" link.


Actual results:

The link goes to https://localize.mozilla.org/


Expected results:

SUMO is switching to Pontoon so the link should go to https://pontoon.mozilla.org/projects/sumo/

Comment 1

[Ton [:Tonnes]]

Not sure if that’s a wise thing to do, it may be better to point to some general page covering all l10n platforms/interfaces. Not all locales are switching to Pontoon.

Comment 2

[vesper]

Since the link is in a UI string that's localizable, I suggest the following:

1. EN will have links to both Pontoon and Pootle OR link to an article about localizing UI that will explain that not all locales use the same tool (with links)
2. Localized versions of the string should link to the right tool for the locale they're for.

Does that sound good?

Comment 3

[Ton [:Tonnes]]

Sounds good, though plans may need to change now that locales were forced to use Pontoon. Maybe Mathjaž has some suggestions?

Comment 4

[Matjaz Horvat [:mathjazz]]

I guess link to Pontoon would be a good enough fix for now, because it works for most locales.

Some locales use VCS directly, but instructions for that will change once SUMO l10n repo is moved to GitHub. By then we should probably also have SUMO available on Pootle.

Comment 5

[Michal Stanke (Mozilla.cz) [:mstanke][:MikkCZ]]

As the URL will be basically different for each locale, wouldn't be better to hardcode the English (e.g. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/localize-sumo-interface) in the string with a comment for the localizers to replace by their own URL? Or add a new string with the URL only, which will be included in the current string instead of Verbatim/Pontoon?

Comment 6

[Michal Stanke (Mozilla.cz) [:mstanke][:MikkCZ]]

I would be happy to look at this. So, do we prefer a link to the Pontoon SUMO project (localize.mozilla.org redirects to https://pontoon.mozilla.org/), the KB article https://support.mozilla.org/kb/localize-sumo-interface (this URL should automatically redirect to the right locale) or let the localizers decide?

Comment 7

[vesper]

(In reply to Michal Stanke (Mozilla.cz) [:MikkCZ] from comment #6)
> I would be happy to look at this. So, do we prefer a link to the Pontoon
> SUMO project (localize.mozilla.org redirects to
> https://pontoon.mozilla.org/), the KB article
> https://support.mozilla.org/kb/localize-sumo-interface (this URL should
> automatically redirect to the right locale) or let the localizers decide?

I think using a string that localizers can set to link to the most relevant thing to their locale (e.g. some locales may have their own materials on how to localize the UI) is the best option. The English original links to pontoon, so if there are no materials for a locale, the string will be localized to lead to pontoon.

Thanks, Michal!

Comment 8

[Michal Stanke (Mozilla.cz) [:mstanke][:MikkCZ]]

https://github.com/mozilla/kitsune/pull/2821

Should I also update docs/localization.rst as part of this bug?

Comment 9

[vesper]

(In reply to Michal Stanke (Mozilla.cz) [:MikkCZ] from comment #8)
> https://github.com/mozilla/kitsune/pull/2821
> 
> Should I also update docs/localization.rst as part of this bug?

If that's necessary, then yes. What would you add there?

Comment 10

[Michal Stanke (Mozilla.cz) [:mstanke][:MikkCZ]]

It's not, but it's the last place, where the localize.mozilla.org is mentioned (I also see "Verbatim" in kitsune/customercare/tests/test_templates.py and docs/sop.rst, but that's something even more internal).

For docs/localization.rst:
- replace Verbatim with Pontoon + links
- I hope the situation described in http://kitsune.readthedocs.org/en/latest/localization.html#updating-the-localizations is better with Pontoon and there are no merging headaches anymore, right?

Comment 11

[vesper]

SGTM, Michal - thank you!

Comment 12

[Michal Stanke (Mozilla.cz) [:mstanke][:MikkCZ]]

The PR is already merged, so I will make it in a standalone one.

Comment 13

[Michal Stanke (Mozilla.cz) [:mstanke][:MikkCZ]]

Follow up to remove Verbatim mentions left elsewhere https://github.com/mozilla/kitsune/pull/2822

Comment 14

[Michael Cooper [:mythmon]]

This has been merged and deployed to prod.