Closed Bug 127160 Opened 23 years ago Closed 13 years ago

With Windows Autohide Taskbar On, cannot retrieve Taskbar in Full Screen Mode

Categories

(Core :: Widget: Win32, defect)

Product:
Core
Component:
Widget: Win32
Type:
defect
Priority:
Not set
Severity:
normal

Tracking

()

Status:
RESOLVED WONTFIX

People

(Reporter: tpringle, Unassigned)

References

Details

Build ID:  2002022003

Steps to reproduce:

1.  Make sure you Windows OS setting is to autohide the windows taskbar
2.  Launch Navigator
3.  Go to full screen mode (F11)
4.  Move your mouse to the bottom of the screen to pull up your windows taskbar

Expected Result:  Windows Taskbar appears
Actual Result:  Nothing happens

This is the only mode in our product wherein you cannot retrieve the windows
taskbar and it makes persistent fullscreen browsing particularly cumbersome.  To
switch between applications or windows, you have to minimize Navigator or exit
fullscreen mode.
Nominating nsbeta1.
Keywords: nsbeta1
wfm using 2002022103 build on win2k.  Is this Win98 specific?  Anyone else
seeing it?
 ->nsbeta1+  Now I get it all the time, same build on Win2K. What is worse: even
if I turn auto-hide off, I get the same results - NS obscures the taskbar, and I
have to exit FS mode to use it.  Is this the same problem, or should I file
another bug?
Keywords: nsbeta1 → nsbeta1+
Never mind about the 'worse' - that seems to be a 'normal' feature of FS on IE
too, though my display is large enough that losing the taskbar is not worth the
extra real estate.  Oh well.
QA Contact: sairuh → claudius
minusing per adt
Keywords: nsbeta1+ → nsbeta1-
Target Milestone: --- → mozilla1.0.1
I can confirm the Problem with
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; de-AT; rv:0.9.9+) Gecko/20020331(09)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; de-AT; rv:0.9.9+) Gecko/20020402 (03)
(WIN98SE)

After Start of mozilla the task bar does not appear (as described)

Correct Function of the Windows task bar can be restarted by the "Windows-Key"
on teh Keyboard. 

The Problem can be reproduced with 100% reliability on my PC
Is this Bug a duplicate of bug 135242?

Rainer:
I can reproduce it too on my win 98 SE system
on my win 98 everything's fine 


to mee it seems on win 98 & SE like this problem is at rc1 no longer!
I'm seeing this bug in all version provided with full-screen mode. (OS: Windows ME)

This is a problem that experienced also opera in his first versions with
full-screen, but it now resolved.
It is very annoying, I think mozilla 1.0 should have this bug corrected.
I tested it today on Win XP Pro with the "official" rc 1 no more problems with
taskbar
I'm using 1.0rc1, and I'm still seeing this problem on NT.  Not only with F11
fullscreen, but frequently when the window is simply maximized.  Even when it's
not maximized, the taskbar (set to "always on top") sometimes pops up _behind_
mozilla.

http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=62506&action=view

This .zip file has an msvc project a wrote before Full Screen mode (using a
sample dummy app I made) was written and attached to the bug which showed how to
do it correctly and didn't have this bug.

I can fix this bug.
I can't get your patch, is the url correct?
Its not a patch btw. Just a dummy .exe project for msvc.
The original fullscreen bug was bug 68136 if anyone wants to take a look at it.
I can see this with Mozilla 1.0 (Build 2002053012). But I don't think this
really belongs to mozilla. The same happens for example, while you're installing
some software and there is a full-screen welcome or so.
You allwas can get access to the menu bar by pressing the Win-Key and you can
switch tasks by [Alt][Tab] and all these things.

Franz
From bug 159515 comment 0:

> In general the fullscreen feature should set the taskbar to autohide
> instead of just going on top of it. When losing focus, the original state of
> the taskbar should be restored (whether that be regular or autohide).
*** Bug 159515 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Franz: It does belong in Mozilla and it can be fixed.

Hewitt: I am going to take this. If you want it then I can give it back.
Status: NEW → ASSIGNED
trying again
Assignee: hewitt → netdemonz
Status: ASSIGNED → NEW
I have this bug using Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.1)
Gecko/20020826 on Windows ME. The additional related problem that I saw with
this that is worse is that if you close a full-screen window, the taskbar will
not come back, even if you press ctl+esc - you get the start menu but no
taskbar! I can't always reproduce this however. I was able to switch back to
another Mozilla window and make it full screen, then toggle full screen off and
the taskbar would appear again. As for the taskbar not popping up in front of a
window, I get that frequently anyway - I'm not sure that's Mozilla specific.
I can confirm this bug on Win95 with Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win95; en-US;
rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826.  IE 5.5 fullscreen does *not* suffer the same problem on
Win95.
*** Bug 185358 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
i can confirm this on Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.2.1;
MultiZilla v1.1.32 final) Gecko/20021130 with the taskbar set on auto-hide.

as an extra note, if i open two windows in mozilla and make one of the full
screen, then as long as the full screen window isn't minimised i can't see the
taskbar even when viewing the normal window. if i change the focus to another
program (doesn't have to be maximised, just has to have the focus), then i can
get back into the task-bar. switch the focus back to mozilla and i lose it again.
I have a similar problem with Moz 1.3
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030312
on Windows ME (4.90.3000)

My problem is with maximized browser windows rather than full screen.

I have an autohide taskbar and an autohide toolbar that docks to the side of my
desktop. When Moz is maximised, very often (but not always), I can't make either
toolbar show itself. The taskbar can always be shown by pressing the windows
button on my keyboard, but there's nothing I can do about the other toolbar.
Closing all browser windows is the only way to get the toolbars back. Moreover,
this disappearing trick can happen at odd times: often, I'll raise the taskbar
to change browser window and a click on the corresponding button causes the
toolbar to instantly disappear.

This only happens when at least one browser window is maximized.
retargeting
Target Milestone: mozilla1.0.1 → Future
*** Bug 237930 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
I see this bug with Firefox even though I have autohide off.

If you have autohide *off* and use Full Screen in Internet Explorer, IE puts the
task bar into an autohide-like mode with a slightly longer delay.  If you have
auto-hide on, IE lets autohide work normally.
*** Bug 251609 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
bug 195564 is a dup/variant of this - see bug 195564 comment 4
(In reply to comment #19)
> From bug 159515 comment 0:
> 
> > In general the fullscreen feature should set the taskbar to autohide
> > instead of just going on top of it. When losing focus, the original state of
> > the taskbar should be restored (whether that be regular or autohide).

I would prefer this behavior in both the Mozilla Browser and Firefox.
(In reply to comment #11)
> I tested it today on Win XP Pro with the "official" rc 1 no more problems with
> taskbar

Hello, could you please elaborate on that?  I'm having this serious issue on XP 
Pro SP1 and SP2, with both FF 1.0PR and .9.3 .  I could not agree more with the 
person that said "makes persistent fullscreen browsing particularly 
cumbersome".  This is the main reason why I cannot use FF and am still stuck 
with IE.  

I can't believe the "geniuses" that designed FF felt the need that no one needs 
access to the Taskbar!!  (And no, having to hit keys or leave FS mode in order 
to access open apps on the taskbar is NOT an option.  It's lenghty, takes too 
much time, and is also cumbersome).  I found only one extension so far that 
gives you the full screen view WITH taskbar autohide/hide, but incredibly this 
is another "genius" that left something CRITICAL out; and that is the icons: "-
" (minimize), [restore icons], and "X" icons are MISSING from the toolbar in 
full screen view! The only way in it to close a full screen view is making the 
taskbar show, then right clicking the window, then "close"; or clicking 
the "Full screen" icon again, then clicking the "X" at upper right. This is yet 
another reason why FF will never overtake IE--the omission of NEEDED CRITICAL 
features.

(In reply to comment #13)
> http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=62506&action=view
> This .zip file has an msvc project a wrote before Full Screen mode (using a
> sample dummy app I made) was written and attached to the bug which showed how 
to
> do it correctly and didn't have this bug.
> I can fix this bug.

Brian could you please explain the purpose of your download; and you said: "I 
can fix this bug".....so how?  :-)  I have the download, and I clicked the mail 
exe file that was by itself, and I get a "Hello world" window that opens.  But 
going to full screen still hides the Taskbar with no way to make it show 
by "hovering" like FF should do.
Thanks.
That should have read above: "I clicked the *MAIN* exe file that was by 
itself..."
-Clint

Clint: The proof of concept still works for me. Move your mouse to the very
bottom of the screen, so it can't move any further, and then hold it there, and
after a few seconds, the taskbar comes up. The region to make it come up could
be enlarged, and the time decreased, but it's just a proof of concept to show
what's necessary.

If I weren't in college, this would probably have been fixed already :-/
Product: Core → Mozilla Application Suite
the equivalent Firefox bug is bug 252205
I'm a user running Firefox 1.0.6 on a Win98SE machine. This annoying bug
disappeared when I stopped using Adblock. Hope this helps.
Assignee: netdragon → jag
OS: Windows 98 → All
QA Contact: claudius
Hardware: PC → All
I have XP.  I only have this problem with Firefox unfortunately.  So the only way to see the taskbar in Firefox is to hit the Windows key on my keyboard.  Will there be a patch at some point to fix this?  I don't want to go back to IE.  Thanks.
I am running XP w/SP2.  Before installing Firefox I never had a problem with the taskbar appearing with the mouse rollover using Netscape 7.2 and IE.  Since installing Firefox I have had to minimize the active window to access the task bar or revert to using Alt + Tab.  I tried full screen (F11) then leaving the mouse at the bottom of the screen for a period of time and no taskbar appeared.  If I am running other apps WITHOUT launching Firefox the taskbar is constantly available with the mouse rollover.

Thank you.
With my SM 1.1.8 + 1.1.9NB I have this problem again using winxp
Target Milestone: Future → ---
wow,. bug posted 2002. 8 years later...

Win 7, FF 3.6.8. Bug still exists.
I still have this problem in the new Firefox 4 that I just upgraded to today. After all this time I'm wandering if this is a Windows problem. I'm in XP.
Jim I have a fix for this along with Bug 660171 by doing for each edge by using SHAppBarMessage and ABN_FULLSCREENAPP before and after setting full screen.

Some programs though, like IE9, on full screen mode actually don't want the taskbar to be shown on full screen.  The fix above makes it so the taskbar is visible.   I can do the fix either way.  Which way do you prefer?
Assignee: jag-mozilla → netzen
Perhaps you want a preference to control whether the autohide taskbar is visible in full screen? If so what is the default?
Assignee: netzen → nobody
Component: UI Design → Widget: Win32
Product: SeaMonkey → Core
QA Contact: win32
(In reply to Brian R. Bondy [:bbondy] from comment #46)
> Perhaps you want a preference to control whether the autohide taskbar is
> visible in full screen? If so what is the default?

We have too many prefs, I'd prefer we choose a behavior we feel is the best for users and "just do it".
The latest versions of IE, Opera and Google Chrome all don't show autohide taskbars in full screen.  All of our previous releases also don't show autohide taskbars in full screen.

So I nominate that we mark this task as Resolved / WONTFIX.
(In reply to Brian R. Bondy [:bbondy] from comment #48)
> The latest versions of IE, Opera and Google Chrome all don't show autohide
> taskbars in full screen.  All of our previous releases also don't show
> autohide taskbars in full screen.
> 
> So I nominate that we mark this task as Resolved / WONTFIX.

I agree.
Resolving as WONTFIX for now based on Comment 48 and no strong opposition.
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 13 years ago
Resolution: --- → WONTFIX

Hi! It's the year 2020 and that bug still exists on Thunderbird 78.4.2 (32-bit), on the latest Windows 10.
What's going on? Does nobody check the issues raised here? Or marks it resolved just like that?!

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