Closed
Bug 1278386
Opened 8 years ago
Closed 6 years ago
Consider changing the wording when a review requires fixes
Categories
(MozReview Graveyard :: Review Board: User Interface, defect)
MozReview Graveyard
Review Board: User Interface
Tracking
(Not tracked)
RESOLVED
INVALID
People
(Reporter: erahm, Unassigned)
Details
Attachments
(2 obsolete files)
Currently there's a comment with my face shouting 'Fix it!' if I flagged an issue to be dealt with (even if I gave the review an r+). As a reviewer I try to make all of my comments constructive and positive, I'd prefer that my avatar convey that same tone.
Comment 1•8 years ago
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Maybe something like this instead? http://i.imgur.com/gA42Rc7.png
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Comment 2•8 years ago
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(In reply to Mike Conley (:mconley) - (needinfo me!) from comment #1) > Maybe something like this instead? > > http://i.imgur.com/gA42Rc7.png That seems reasonable to me.
Comment hidden (mozreview-request) |
Comment hidden (mozreview-request) |
sorry about doing this, but this bug sparked quite a discussion in the mozreview team about if this change should happen. the final consensus is that we will leave the existing text as-is. the text needs to clearly and concisely convey that action is required by the patch author before it will be good to land, something that "fix it" achieves.
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 8 years ago
Resolution: --- → WONTFIX
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Comment 6•8 years ago
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(In reply to Byron Jones ‹:glob› from comment #5) > sorry about doing this, but this bug sparked quite a discussion in the > mozreview team about if this change should happen. > the final consensus is that we will leave the existing text as-is. > > the text needs to clearly and concisely convey that action is required by > the patch author before it will be good to land, something that "fix it" > achieves. Perhaps you should include your users in the conversation as well, there's a reason this bug was filed.
Updated•8 years ago
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Attachment #8790330 -
Attachment is obsolete: true
Attachment #8790330 -
Flags: review?(glob)
Updated•8 years ago
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Attachment #8790331 -
Attachment is obsolete: true
Attachment #8790331 -
Flags: review?(glob)
Comment 7•8 years ago
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(In reply to Eric Rahm [:erahm] from comment #6) > Perhaps you should include your users in the conversation as well, there's a > reason this bug was filed. The conversation was partly about technical complexity, and partly about clarity. Feel free to argue your case further; we have been known to change our minds in the past. :)
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Comment 8•8 years ago
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(In reply to Mark Côté [:mcote] from comment #7) > (In reply to Eric Rahm [:erahm] from comment #6) > > Perhaps you should include your users in the conversation as well, there's a > > reason this bug was filed. > > The conversation was partly about technical complexity, and partly about > clarity. Feel free to argue your case further; we have been known to change > our minds in the past. :) Okay see comment 0, I don't want to use a tool that makes me seem actively hostile to the person I'm reviewing.
Comment 9•8 years ago
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Right, we get that. Unfortunately this is pretty ingrained in Review Board and would involve a nontrivial amount of work to change. Is there some way we can measure if this actively turns people off? I know I've heard similar ideas with "r-" but to my knowledge no one has ever tried to quantify the effects. As this is the first time I've heard of an issue with "Fix it", I would want to make sure the work involved would be justified (we have quite a number of high-priority UI and usability issues we're working on right now). To be clear, I'm not saying you are wrong, but we have to balance this with the other 500+ bugs filed against MozReview (in addition to larger feature work).
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Comment 10•8 years ago
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(In reply to Mark Côté [:mcote] from comment #9) > Right, we get that. Unfortunately this is pretty ingrained in Review Board > and would involve a nontrivial amount of work to change. Is there some way > we can measure if this actively turns people off? I know I've heard similar > ideas with "r-" but to my knowledge no one has ever tried to quantify the > effects. As this is the first time I've heard of an issue with "Fix it", I > would want to make sure the work involved would be justified (we have quite > a number of high-priority UI and usability issues we're working on right > now). > > To be clear, I'm not saying you are wrong, but we have to balance this with > the other 500+ bugs filed against MozReview (in addition to larger feature > work). I don't know the best way for you to prioritize this, perhaps ask in a dev-platform post or maybe ask members of our community focused on bringing in a new users? It's possible you already did, but it was done outside of the scope of this bug so I don't know. The existing patch indicates it's not a heavy burden to change (a one phrase change if you will), I suppose the real work is getting a reasonable result out of any ensuing bikeshedding.
Comment 11•8 years ago
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I know both mhoye and jdm work a lot with new contributors. Do either of you have opinions on this? I'm not crazy about "Feedback" because (a) it's not a clear instruction as to the next step like "Fix it" is, and (b) it clashes with the Feedback flag (which we will most likely support in MozReview at some point). I think it's arguable if "Fix it" is aggressive, but maybe you've heard some feedback and/or have other ideas.
Flags: needinfo?(mhoye)
Flags: needinfo?(josh)
Comment 12•8 years ago
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I'm strongly opposed to talking to people who are volunteering their time and effort in the imperative. What to do about the patch should be in the comments, as I understand it, and given that we're space-limited to... what, eight or nine characters? Ten maybe? Then "Feedback" seems like a better choice, but if we've got the space "Revision Needed" would also be good. How much space do we actually have here?
Flags: needinfo?(mhoye)
Comment 13•8 years ago
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(In reply to Mike Hoye [:mhoye] from comment #12) > What to do about the patch should be in the comments, as I understand it, > and given that we're space-limited to... what, eight or nine characters? Ten > maybe? Then "Feedback" seems like a better choice, but if we've got the > space "Revision Needed" would also be good. > > How much space do we actually have here? I think it's pretty flexible; there's usually a lot of space underneath. I still think "Feedback" would cause more confusion than its worth, given the feedback flag in BMO. "Revision needed" isn't bad, though not great... but I like that general sentiment.
Comment 14•8 years ago
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We could follow github's lead and phrase it as "Requested changes".
Flags: needinfo?(josh)
Comment 15•8 years ago
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Reopening this since there has been good discussion.
Status: RESOLVED → REOPENED
Resolution: WONTFIX → ---
Comment 16•6 years ago
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MozReview is now obsolete. Please use Phabricator instead. Closing this bug.
Status: REOPENED → RESOLVED
Closed: 8 years ago → 6 years ago
Resolution: --- → INVALID
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