Modify preference setting "Allow immediate server notifications when new messages arrive" to include the word IDLE



3 years ago
3 years ago


(Reporter: tanstaafl, Unassigned)


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(2 attachments, 1 obsolete attachment)



3 years ago
User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0
Build ID: 20161019084923

Steps to reproduce:

Noticed that the IDLE preference was moved to main Account Settings screen (good!).

Actual results:

Also noticed that the word 'IDLE' was removed from the preference setting description (bad!).

Expected results:

The word 'IDLE' should be included in the preference description, since this is exactly what this setting is used for. Not including this word creates confusion for those who know what IDLE is.

I have no problem with using terminology that makes it easier to understand, but the proper technical terms should still be used whenever possible.

I propose that the description be changed to:

"Allow instant server notification of new messages (IDLE support)"

This is only 3 additional characters (5 if you keep the word 'immediate' instead of 'instant'), and eliminates the question mark for those who know what IDLE is. I myself was not completely sure that this is precisely what this setting was for without a lot of googling and stumbling on bug 449021.


3 years ago
Component: Account Manager → Account Manager
Product: Thunderbird → MailNews Core
Version: 52 Branch → Trunk


3 years ago
OS: Unspecified → All
Hardware: Unspecified → All

Comment 1

3 years ago
If this is changed, please modify the label for Thunderbird only.
SeaMonkey has the benefit of a built-in help which explains "IDLE."

Comment 2

3 years ago
In my opinion, you should not have to go through additional steps (open Help, find it) for something like this.

This pref is for enabling/disabling IDLE support. What is the problem with making that clear?

Comment 3

3 years ago
We don't have the additions for "Use HTML" and other items in the Account Settings either, no need to clutter the pane if we have the Help button just there to guide people with what they need (and which is more detailed than the label can be anyway).

Comment 4

3 years ago
Don't get me wrong, I don't use SeaMonkey. so am unconcerned with pushing this to it.

But if a Pref is there, it should be properly labeled. Not mentioning 'IDLE' when the pref is for enabling/disabling IDLE support just creates confusion.
In general, I agree that it would be best if UI included some path for people with clue to figure out that "oh, that is the IDLE setting!" without having to find the code that implements the pref. But I have not looked at this particular UI change.

Comment 6

3 years ago
Thanks Kent...

This is a screenshot of what the old UI looked like.

It was accessed by going to Tools > Account Settings > Server Settings then clicking the Advanced button.

Comment 7

3 years ago
and this is the new one, moved to the main Server Settings window (so, no more clicking the Advanced button), with the new text label with no more mention of IDLE.

Comment 8

3 years ago
Posted image Old_IDLE_UI_Pref.png
Sorry, dunno how that got cropped like that...
Attachment #8805656 - Attachment is obsolete: true


3 years ago
Severity: normal → minor
Ever confirmed: true
Summary: Modify IDLE Support preference setting description to include the word IDLE → Modify preference setting "Allow immediate server notifications when new messages arrive" to include the word IDLE
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