Simplify `Find in This Page...' to `Find...'



17 years ago
10 years ago


(Reporter: mpt, Assigned: Biesinger)




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17 years ago
Now that the `Find...' command is no longer in the same menu as the various 
Internet search items, it does not need the `in This Page' verbiage. That Find 
applies only to the current document is implicit, because that's how the same 
command behaves in almost all other apps.

What you see:
*   `Find in This Page...'

What you should see:
*   `Find...'

Problem occurs in:
*   latest Mozilla builds

Problem does not occur in:
*   Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.1
*   iCab 2.6
*   Opera 5.0b5
*   Netscape Communicator 4.79


17 years ago
Keywords: 4xp, polish
this obviously happens on all platforms mozilla runs on, not only mac
OS: Mac System 9.x → All
Hardware: Macintosh → All
jglick: I've heard you created the spec for the menu entries. Do you approve the
change of "Find in this page" to "Find" for the reasons outlined above?

Comment 5

17 years ago
qa -->
QA Contact: paw → pmac

Comment 6

17 years ago
The spec was approved by 'pixeljockeys' a cross functional group of folks 
involved in UI issues. You'd want to be consistent and change Mail to "Find..." 
as well. Cc'ing browser ui and tech pubs folks for their thoughts.
Created attachment 77519 [details] [diff] [review]
patch part2

oops, indeed, here's the mailnews part

Comment 8

17 years ago
I doubt most users understand the difference between Find and Search. Netscape
4.x also used the "Find in Page..." menu item (although admittedly its edit menu
also had Search items.) Netscape 4 also removed the very useful Find toolbar
button. I can only assume that this was based on user confusion between the two.
I'd be inclined to change this in mail only.

Comment 9

17 years ago
I don't think we should do this. 4.x for Windows says "Find in Page", IE 6 for
Windows says "Find (on this Page)".  Users may think Find... in mail is for
messages.  Why change this and risk confusion?

Comment 10

17 years ago
Either do this or change "Find Again" to "Find Again in this Page".  Sounds
kinda silly now, doesn't it?

Comment 11

17 years ago
I don't see why mail/news needs to be changed as well, since it's already using 
wording which is inconsistent with Navigator. If we're discussing both, 
however, I can expand the list from the original bug report ...

Problem occurs with:
*   latest Mozilla builds

Problem does not occur with these browsers:
*   Netscape Navigator 1.1
*   Netscape Navigator 2.01
*   Netscape Navigator 3.04
*   Netscape Navigator 4.79
*   Microsoft Internet Explorer 3.0
*   Microsoft Internet Explorer 4.0
*   Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.1
*   Opera 5.0b5
*   iCab 2.6

Problem does not occur with these mail/news programs:
*   Netscape Mail 3.04
*   Netscape Messenger 4.79
*   Microsoft Outlook Express 4.0
*   Microsoft Outlook Express 4.02
*   Eudora Mail (all the versions I can see using
*   MT-NewsWatcher 3.1

Comment 12

17 years ago
As I already said, your list is not accurate. You need to specify that you're
referring to mac.  Both 4.x and IE for Windows have text similar to ours.

Comment 13

17 years ago
(Sorry, `Outlook Express 4.02' should read `Outlook Express 5.02'.)

Comment 14

17 years ago
I agree that it may be confusing in Mail.  But for Navigator, I've never heard
anyone talk of "Finding on the web".  They always "Search the web".  I don't
think having just "Find" would be confusing at all.  It's a pretty standard
menu, even Notepad has it.
future until something has been decided
Severity: minor → trivial
Priority: -- → P5
Target Milestone: --- → Future

Comment 16

17 years ago
marking wontfix.
Last Resolved: 17 years ago
Resolution: --- → WONTFIX
QA Contact: pmac → sairuh
v wf.
Product: Core → Mozilla Application Suite


10 years ago
Component: XP Apps: GUI Features → UI Design
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