Most contests uses popup windows. And with the new context menu the Fill-in Form option has disappered from the context menu making it impossible to use Form Manager in windows without the Edit menu! Now I have to use IE to fill out my forms! 20020407
Interesting point. I was against removing the form-manager items from the context-menu but never had any good arguments to present for keeping them. Now we have a good argument -- there is loss of functionality. cc'ing various parties so that the decision can be rethought.
Status: NEW → ASSIGNED
gemal, do you have a url that demonstrates this? Also, is it possible to use the keyboard to bring up the edit menu in those cases?
for windows without a file/edit menu bar: the spec indicated the need for a top-most item called [Show File Menu]. this would enable user to interact with the page as usual. the form-fill items were originally in the spec, but it was felt that since the performance hit for having them was so high, it didn't make sense. i am for the form fill items being in the Form Field Menu, because they do belong there, however i can't argue with such grim performance figures.
http://www.sonymusic.dk/dk/konkurrencer.php press the "Klik her for at deltage!" link. That produces a new window with any toolbars. I'm not sure I'd like the Fill-in Form in the context menu. What about just having a shortcut key ala CTRL+M or something to launch the fill-in manager. I also tried doubleclicking in the input fields. Perhaps that could launch the fill-in manager. If we are gonna have the fill-in manager in the context menu, please only make it appear when you right click on a input field. I'm still looking forward to having fill-in form ala in Internet Explorer. Much better and much easier to understand by the user.
nsbeta1- per Nav triage team
Keywords: nsbeta1 → nsbeta1-
Target Milestone: mozilla1.0 → mozilla1.1alpha
Priority: -- → P2
Target Milestone: mozilla1.1alpha → mozilla1.1beta
16 years ago
Keywords: nsbeta1 → nsbeta1+
Putting the formfill items back in the context menu will allow you to use form-manager in menuless pop-up windows. If I'm understanding Marlon's comment 3, the reason the form-fill items were removed from the context menu was for performance reasons. The performance hit was due to the test of whether or not to enable the items depending on whether or not there was anything to prefill or capture. With that test removed, there is no performance hit. Removing the test means that if there is a form on the current page, then the formfill items will appear in the context menu and will always be enabled. If there is no form, then they will not appear.
Created attachment 96544 [details] [diff] [review] Putting formfill items back in context menu with no performance penalty
I was under the impression that we weren't making changes to the existing context menus (wasn't this painful enough the last time around) without publically available usability data and evaluation. This change won't be allowed into the tree without something more than just a bug report. Context menus were settled and changes to context should not be made without more serious usability evaluation. And we're certainly not going to allow more overlays (which have recently been shown to be our single biggest XUL performance problem) without damned good justification from a usability and technical standpoint.
I should add that removing the test causing the slowdown is not a "fix", it's a workaround. Having these enabled for every page with a form would be terrible. You'd have to hit the items just to see whether or not there was information to prefilll, which lessens the overall win of this feature: convenience and time-saving. The state of the items would also be inconsistent with the state of those in the Edit menu. Not to mention that these items would no longer be context-sensitive, so they wouldn't belong in a context menu. The correct fix for this bug given the current wallet would be as Marlon points out in comment 3, a Show Menubar item in the context menu in popup windows. In my opinion the best fix for this bug is to swap out the current wallet in favor of "Satchel", an improved, more passive and thus more convenient form fill system that works like IE's, that hewitt has been working on in his spare time.
Status: ASSIGNED → RESOLVED
Last Resolved: 16 years ago
Resolution: --- → WONTFIX
until Mozilla gets a decent autocomplete on fields like IE, Form Manager is a no go from my point of view.
Status: RESOLVED → VERIFIED
Assignee: morse → nobody
Component: Form Manager → Form Manager
Product: Core → Toolkit
QA Contact: tpreston → form.manager
Target Milestone: mozilla1.2beta → ---
Version: Trunk → unspecified
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