1411047 - Suspicion that Webrender/Webrendest was causing BSOD

Status: RESOLVED INCOMPLETE

(Core :: Graphics, defect, P3)

Description

[sam]

User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:57.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/57.0
Build ID: 20171016185129

Steps to reproduce:

Normal usage of my computer, running Firefox Developer Edition, having the webrender and webrendest options enabled.

Running Windows 10 Pro, Version 10.0.16299 Build 16299. 
Running Firefox Developer Edition 57.0b9.

I'm sure I probably need to inspect the 



Actual results:

In the normal usage of my computer, running Firefox Developer Edition, having the webrender and webrendest options enabled, my computer crashed during use, to the BSOD, with the error message SYSTEM_THREAD_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED.

I'm sure I need to inspect the crash dump somehow, but I'm not entirely sure the best way to do that, could anyone link me to some appropriate resources so i can provide more information?


Expected results:

My computer should not have crashed.

Comment 1

[sam]

Also, I disabled the settings and have not crashed yet.

Comment 2

[Tooru Fujisawa [:arai]]

can you provide the information in about:support page, Graphics section?

Comment 3

[sam]

Sure thing! These are my graphics settings as of current. Note that webrender/est is currently disabled. Sorry for the poor formatting :(

Graphics
Features
Compositing	Direct3D 11 (Advanced Layers)
Asynchronous Pan/Zoom	wheel input enabled; touch input enabled; scrollbar drag enabled; keyboard enabled; autoscroll enabled
WebGL 1 Driver WSI Info	EGL_VENDOR: Google Inc. (adapter LUID: 000000000000adec)
EGL_VERSION: 1.4 (ANGLE 2.1.0.dec065540d5f)
EGL_EXTENSIONS: EGL_EXT_create_context_robustness EGL_ANGLE_d3d_share_handle_client_buffer EGL_ANGLE_d3d_texture_client_buffer EGL_ANGLE_surface_d3d_texture_2d_share_handle EGL_ANGLE_query_surface_pointer EGL_ANGLE_window_fixed_size EGL_ANGLE_keyed_mutex EGL_ANGLE_surface_orientation EGL_ANGLE_direct_composition EGL_NV_post_sub_buffer EGL_KHR_create_context EGL_EXT_device_query EGL_KHR_image EGL_KHR_image_base EGL_KHR_gl_texture_2D_image EGL_KHR_gl_texture_cubemap_image EGL_KHR_gl_renderbuffer_image EGL_KHR_get_all_proc_addresses EGL_KHR_stream EGL_KHR_stream_consumer_gltexture EGL_NV_stream_consumer_gltexture_yuv EGL_ANGLE_flexible_surface_compatibility EGL_ANGLE_stream_producer_d3d_texture_nv12 EGL_ANGLE_create_context_webgl_compatibility EGL_CHROMIUM_create_context_bind_generates_resource 
EGL_EXTENSIONS(nullptr): EGL_EXT_client_extensions EGL_EXT_platform_base EGL_EXT_platform_device EGL_ANGLE_platform_angle EGL_ANGLE_platform_angle_d3d EGL_ANGLE_device_creation EGL_ANGLE_device_creation_d3d11 EGL_ANGLE_experimental_present_path EGL_KHR_client_get_all_proc_addresses 
WebGL 1 Driver Renderer	Google Inc. -- ANGLE (Intel(R) HD Graphics 520 Direct3D11 vs_5_0 ps_5_0)
WebGL 1 Driver Version	OpenGL ES 2.0 (ANGLE 2.1.0.dec065540d5f)
WebGL 1 Driver Extensions	GL_ANGLE_depth_texture GL_ANGLE_framebuffer_blit GL_ANGLE_framebuffer_multisample GL_ANGLE_instanced_arrays GL_ANGLE_lossy_etc_decode GL_ANGLE_pack_reverse_row_order GL_ANGLE_request_extension GL_ANGLE_robust_client_memory GL_ANGLE_texture_compression_dxt3 GL_ANGLE_texture_compression_dxt5 GL_ANGLE_texture_usage GL_ANGLE_translated_shader_source GL_CHROMIUM_bind_generates_resource GL_CHROMIUM_bind_uniform_location GL_CHROMIUM_copy_compressed_texture GL_CHROMIUM_copy_texture GL_CHROMIUM_sync_query GL_EXT_blend_minmax GL_EXT_color_buffer_half_float GL_EXT_debug_marker GL_EXT_discard_framebuffer GL_EXT_disjoint_timer_query GL_EXT_draw_buffers GL_EXT_frag_depth GL_EXT_map_buffer_range GL_EXT_occlusion_query_boolean GL_EXT_read_format_bgra GL_EXT_robustness GL_EXT_sRGB GL_EXT_shader_texture_lod GL_EXT_texture_compression_dxt1 GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic GL_EXT_texture_format_BGRA8888 GL_EXT_texture_rg GL_EXT_texture_storage GL_EXT_unpack_subimage GL_KHR_debug GL_NV_EGL_stream_consumer_external GL_NV_fence GL_NV_pack_subimage GL_NV_pixel_buffer_object GL_OES_EGL_image GL_OES_EGL_image_external GL_OES_compressed_ETC1_RGB8_texture GL_OES_depth32 GL_OES_element_index_uint GL_OES_get_program_binary GL_OES_mapbuffer GL_OES_packed_depth_stencil GL_OES_rgb8_rgba8 GL_OES_standard_derivatives GL_OES_texture_float GL_OES_texture_float_linear GL_OES_texture_half_float GL_OES_texture_half_float_linear GL_OES_texture_npot GL_OES_vertex_array_object 
WebGL 1 Extensions	ANGLE_instanced_arrays EXT_blend_minmax EXT_color_buffer_half_float EXT_frag_depth EXT_shader_texture_lod EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic EXT_disjoint_timer_query OES_element_index_uint OES_standard_derivatives OES_texture_float OES_texture_float_linear OES_texture_half_float OES_texture_half_float_linear OES_vertex_array_object WEBGL_color_buffer_float WEBGL_compressed_texture_s3tc WEBGL_debug_renderer_info WEBGL_debug_shaders WEBGL_depth_texture WEBGL_draw_buffers WEBGL_lose_context MOZ_WEBGL_lose_context MOZ_WEBGL_compressed_texture_s3tc MOZ_WEBGL_depth_texture
WebGL 2 Driver WSI Info	EGL_VENDOR: Google Inc. (adapter LUID: 000000000000adec)
EGL_VERSION: 1.4 (ANGLE 2.1.0.dec065540d5f)
EGL_EXTENSIONS: EGL_EXT_create_context_robustness EGL_ANGLE_d3d_share_handle_client_buffer EGL_ANGLE_d3d_texture_client_buffer EGL_ANGLE_surface_d3d_texture_2d_share_handle EGL_ANGLE_query_surface_pointer EGL_ANGLE_window_fixed_size EGL_ANGLE_keyed_mutex EGL_ANGLE_surface_orientation EGL_ANGLE_direct_composition EGL_NV_post_sub_buffer EGL_KHR_create_context EGL_EXT_device_query EGL_KHR_image EGL_KHR_image_base EGL_KHR_gl_texture_2D_image EGL_KHR_gl_texture_cubemap_image EGL_KHR_gl_renderbuffer_image EGL_KHR_get_all_proc_addresses EGL_KHR_stream EGL_KHR_stream_consumer_gltexture EGL_NV_stream_consumer_gltexture_yuv EGL_ANGLE_flexible_surface_compatibility EGL_ANGLE_stream_producer_d3d_texture_nv12 EGL_ANGLE_create_context_webgl_compatibility EGL_CHROMIUM_create_context_bind_generates_resource 
EGL_EXTENSIONS(nullptr): EGL_EXT_client_extensions EGL_EXT_platform_base EGL_EXT_platform_device EGL_ANGLE_platform_angle EGL_ANGLE_platform_angle_d3d EGL_ANGLE_device_creation EGL_ANGLE_device_creation_d3d11 EGL_ANGLE_experimental_present_path EGL_KHR_client_get_all_proc_addresses 
WebGL 2 Driver Renderer	Google Inc. -- ANGLE (Intel(R) HD Graphics 520 Direct3D11 vs_5_0 ps_5_0)
WebGL 2 Driver Version	OpenGL ES 3.0 (ANGLE 2.1.0.dec065540d5f)
WebGL 2 Driver Extensions	GL_ANGLE_depth_texture GL_ANGLE_framebuffer_blit GL_ANGLE_framebuffer_multisample GL_ANGLE_instanced_arrays GL_ANGLE_lossy_etc_decode GL_ANGLE_pack_reverse_row_order GL_ANGLE_request_extension GL_ANGLE_robust_client_memory GL_ANGLE_texture_compression_dxt3 GL_ANGLE_texture_compression_dxt5 GL_ANGLE_texture_usage GL_ANGLE_translated_shader_source GL_CHROMIUM_bind_generates_resource GL_CHROMIUM_bind_uniform_location GL_CHROMIUM_copy_compressed_texture GL_CHROMIUM_copy_texture GL_CHROMIUM_sync_query GL_EXT_blend_minmax GL_EXT_color_buffer_float GL_EXT_color_buffer_half_float GL_EXT_debug_marker GL_EXT_discard_framebuffer GL_EXT_disjoint_timer_query GL_EXT_draw_buffers GL_EXT_frag_depth GL_EXT_map_buffer_range GL_EXT_occlusion_query_boolean GL_EXT_read_format_bgra GL_EXT_robustness GL_EXT_sRGB GL_EXT_shader_texture_lod GL_EXT_texture_compression_dxt1 GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic GL_EXT_texture_format_BGRA8888 GL_EXT_texture_norm16 GL_EXT_texture_rg GL_EXT_texture_storage GL_EXT_unpack_subimage GL_KHR_debug GL_NV_EGL_stream_consumer_external GL_NV_fence GL_NV_pack_subimage GL_NV_pixel_buffer_object GL_OES_EGL_image GL_OES_EGL_image_external GL_OES_EGL_image_external_essl3 GL_OES_compressed_ETC1_RGB8_texture GL_OES_depth32 GL_OES_element_index_uint GL_OES_get_program_binary GL_OES_mapbuffer GL_OES_packed_depth_stencil GL_OES_rgb8_rgba8 GL_OES_standard_derivatives GL_OES_texture_float GL_OES_texture_float_linear GL_OES_texture_half_float GL_OES_texture_half_float_linear GL_OES_texture_npot GL_OES_vertex_array_object 
WebGL 2 Extensions	EXT_color_buffer_float EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic EXT_disjoint_timer_query OES_texture_float_linear WEBGL_compressed_texture_s3tc WEBGL_debug_renderer_info WEBGL_debug_shaders WEBGL_lose_context MOZ_WEBGL_lose_context MOZ_WEBGL_compressed_texture_s3tc
Direct2D	true
DirectWrite	true (10.0.16299.15)
GPU #1
Active	Yes
Description	Intel(R) HD Graphics 520
Vendor ID	0x8086
Device ID	0x1916
Driver Version	20.19.15.4463
Driver Date	7-6-2016
Drivers	igdumdim64 igd10iumd64 igd10iumd64 igd12umd64 igdumdim32 igd10iumd32 igd10iumd32 igd12umd32
Subsys ID	00141414
RAM	Unknown
GPU #2
Active	No
Description	NVIDIA GeForce GPU
Vendor ID	0x10de
Device ID	0x134b
Driver Version	23.21.13.8800
Driver Date	10-12-2017
Drivers	C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nvmsoi.inf_amd64_2063421e58ed3b3a\nvldumdx.dll,C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nvmsoi.inf_amd64_2063421e58ed3b3a\nvldumdx.dll,C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nvmsoi.inf_amd64_2063421e58ed3b3a\nvldumdx.dll,C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nvmsoi.inf_amd64_2063421e58ed3b3a\nvldumdx.dll C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nvmsoi.inf_amd64_2063421e58ed3b3a\nvldumd.dll,C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nvmsoi.inf_amd64_2063421e58ed3b3a\nvldumd.dll,C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nvmsoi.inf_amd64_2063421e58ed3b3a\nvldumd.dll,C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nvmsoi.inf_amd64_2063421e58ed3b3a\nvldumd.dll
Subsys ID	00081414
RAM	1024
Diagnostics
AzureCanvasAccelerated	0
AzureCanvasBackend	Direct2D 1.1
AzureCanvasBackend (UI Process)	skia
AzureContentBackend	Direct2D 1.1
AzureContentBackend (UI Process)	skia
AzureFallbackCanvasBackend (UI Process)	cairo
GPUProcessPid	15468
GPUProcess	
Device Reset	
Decision Log
WEBRENDER	
opt-in by default: WebRender is an opt-in feature
unavailable by runtime: Build doesn't include WebRender

Comment 4

[Tooru Fujisawa [:arai]]

do you have latest graphics driver installed for your graphics card?
it looks like Intel HD Graphics driver 20.19.15.4463 is very old, and the issue might already be fixed in newer version if there is.
(note that user-level application cannot cause BSOD in theory, unless there's some issue in driver or OS or somewhere. and updating those parts may fix the issue)

Comment 5

[Milan Sreckovic [:milan] (needinfo for best results)]

I would also expect the nightly with webrender to behave a lot better than 57.

Comment 6

[sam]

As far as I can tell, my integrated graphics are up to date, as well as my discreet GPU. I run a Microsoft Surface Book, so my updates come over Windows Update, even for Intel graphics, meaning that though there are newer builds, they don't install on my device.

I just downloaded and started nightly and I'll leave it running in the background for some time to see if it happens again. Since I disabled the flag on Developer Edition, it hasn't happened again, so I tend to believe the problem happened there.

> (note that user-level application cannot cause BSOD in theory, unless there's some issue in driver or OS or somewhere.)

I tend to agree with you- It just seems to be isolated to FF currently, which seems weird. It probably would indicate a bug in a driver, but if so, FF is the only thing triggering it so far.

I notice on my about:support page, at the bottom of the graphics section, it lists that Webrender is

> unavailable by runtime: Build doesn't include WebRender

Does this mean that potentially trying to enable a feature that isn't bundled with my build could cause problems?

Comment 7

[Kartikaya Gupta (email:[e-mail])]

(In reply to sam from comment #6)
> Does this mean that potentially trying to enable a feature that isn't
> bundled with my build could cause problems?

If you're running 57 ("Build doesn't include WebRender") with the webrender pref enabled, you won't actually get webrender enabled. It should behave exactly the same as if you left the pref off. So there's probably no correlation between webrender and the BSOD you're seeing.