144318 - Missing webpage navigation on context menu of "active" webpage content (images, links etc)

Status: RESOLVED DUPLICATE of bug 69099

(SeaMonkey :: UI Design, enhancement)

Description

[Jamie Zawinski]

Go to http://www.dnalounge.com/cam/ and click on the image on the right, to get
a decoration-free JS-created popup window, displaying an image that auto-reloads
every 30 seconds.

Now let's assume that something went wrong -- you got a bad image, or the
network connection is stalled, or whatever.  You need to hit reload.  

Click on the context menu -- oops, there's no "Reload".  Nor is there "Document
Info", or "Show Menubar", or anything useful that applies to the document as a
whole -- or that lets you *reach* those sorts of commands *in any way*.

It eventually occurred to me to try clicking outside the image -- in that itsy
bitsy 5-pixel black border between the image and the window manager decoration
-- the "Reload" item is on the context menu there.

But I'll just *bet* there's some way (with CSS or something) for me (as the
document author) to have made this document not have a border at all, so that
everything in the window was consumed by the JPEG.  If I had done that, there
would *be* no non-image pixels in this window, and I (as the user) would be
unable to get to Reload at all.

Not that I think the obfuscated micro-target I have to find now is reasonable. 
But I suspect that on some pages, it wouldn't even exist at all.

This is just another example of how misguided is your idea that context menus
should not include "the document as a whole" as one of their contexts.  One of
the most important contexts is "the browser".  You've changed things so that the
menus contain only the most focussed possible context and disregard any bigger
picture contexts.

Comment 1

[Matthias Versen [:Matti]]

This is a dupe of bug 35130

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 35130 ***

Comment 2

[Jamie Zawinski]

No, I don't think this is a dup of bug 35130.

That bug is: "I wish there was a context menu to reload images."
This bug is: "when all that is visible on the page is a single image,
there is no way to reload the page, or view info, or view source, or..."

I think those are different things, and fixing bug 35130 (by adding
a "reload this image" menu item) would not fix this bug.

Comment 3

[Bartosz Wucke]

Agreed on that. The problem is much more serious than that. I wonder if I should
file a new bug and dup this to that one, instead of changing most of aspects of
this one.

First: Reopening. That's not "Reload image" but "Reload page" availablity matter.
Second. Change Summary to cover the whole problem, not just the subset.
It's large chunk of menu missing when right-clicking on 'active' element of a
page, like a link or an image. Exactly what's missing (comparing to NS4.78)

Back
Forward
Reload
View page source
View page info
Add Bookmark ("Bookmark this page" in Mozilla)
Send Page

For me, lack of 'back' is most painful - it's my preferred method of navigation
when the opened window is large and moving the cursor to the "back" button is
uncomfortable. (note "back" appeared always on top of the context menu, just
under the cursor!) In this case I must find some "free" area of the page, not a
textbox, link, image etc. If the image fills up whole page and that's a "kiosk"
type window (i.e. without navigation/menu bars, just webpage) it's additional
problem - if you don't remember keyboard shortcuts (I don't), you're stuck -
can't go back.

Third: Because of reasons mentioned above, adding keyword "4xp"

This is not really a bug, this is lack of a very useful (in some contexts
critical) feature. Changing Severity to enhancement

Fourth: Changing platform and OS to 'All' and adding 'Verifyme' keyword.
If 'worksforme' on other platforms/OS, please just change platform/OS back to
PC/Linux. If I missed any features missing from 4.x please mention them.

Suggested solution:
Add items "back, forward, reload, stop" as in menu of not-special area, and a
sub-menu of "this page >" with all the rest (just as "this frame >" is done. 

Comment 4

[Jonas Jørgensen]

This is not 'verifyme' since that only applies to resolved bugs.

See also bug 144925 and bug 145107 which are about removing all
non-image-specific and non-link-specific items from the context menus of images
and links.

Comment 5

[Jesse Ruderman]

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 69099 ***

Comment 6

[Heikki Kantola]

Um, I don't understand how this is supposed to be duplicate of bug 69099,
which seems to be about (un)hiding menu bar. This bug being duplicate of bug
135331 would more understandable...

Comment 7

[Jesse Ruderman]

[e-mail]: this bug wasn't asking for back and forward.  It was asking
for reload, page info, bookmark this page, etc.