User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 Build ID: 20180503143129 Steps to reproduce: According to the recommendation of the standard RFC 7231 Section 5.5.2, Firefox does not send a Referer field when: 1) the referring resource is a local "file" or "data" URI, 2) an unsecured HTTP request is used and the referring page was received with a secure protocol (HTTPS). I argue that Firefox should be more strict than the standard and should also not send a HTTP referer field if the visitor has not provided its informed consent to the sharing of its most recently visited webpage (that may be considered personal data). If the HTTP referer field is personal data, GDPR may apply for EU citizens and a legal basis (see https://gdpr-info.eu/art-6-gdpr/) should be identified of which one is consent. Actual results: When I browse from a HTTPS site to another HTTPS website, a HTTPS referer field is sent along the request. Expected results: The request should only contain a referer field if I consented. Consent could be implemented in a similar manner like DNT. Maybe the setting can be repurposed. If I wish to be not tracked, also no referer field should be sent.
I'm tweaking the summary a bit because as worded it's not a bug but intended behavior.
Severity: normal → enhancement
Component: Untriaged → Networking: HTTP
OS: Unspecified → All
Product: Firefox → Core
Hardware: Unspecified → All
Summary: Data leak: HTTP-Referer sent without consent → Data leak: don't send HTTP-Referer without consent
We already have a preference for this (network.http.referer.defaultPolicy), but the default we ship doesn't prevent sending referrer. If we decide to have a visible preference for this, it's a Firefox bug, not Necko bug.
Component: Networking: HTTP → Preferences
Product: Core → Firefox
Summary: Data leak: don't send HTTP-Referer without consent → Data leak: don't send HTTP-Referer without consent, have a UI switch for default referer policy
(In reply to Honza Bambas (:mayhemer) from comment #2) > We already have a preference for this (network.http.referer.defaultPolicy) https://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-release/source/modules/libpref/init/all.js#1613 // Set the default Referrer Policy; to be used unless overriden by the site // 0=no-referrer, 1=same-origin, 2=strict-origin-when-cross-origin, // 3=no-referrer-when-downgrade pref("network.http.referer.defaultPolicy", 3); Which of the above values sends the referrer only upon user consent? For that matter, how is consent determined? The last paragraph of comment 0 makes it sound like the request is for "Send websites a 'Do not track' signal…: Always" to also set network.http.referer.defaultPolicy = 0.
(In reply to robert from comment #0) > If the HTTP referer field is personal data This doesn't seem like a valid assumption. That is, it may contain personal data if the website put it there - or it may not. Most HTTP URLs seem unlikely to contain personal data according to the letter of GDPR (ie most URLs don't tend to contain people's names, or other identifying data *that the third party could use to identify this person*). If a webpage on foo.com loads a script/image/whatever from foo-cdn.net, it's going to send the referrer (unless referrer-policy dictates otherwise). Not sending it may break fetching the image/script on which foo.com depends (ie sending the referrer might be necessary for the functionality of the website - as a random example, some image hosting sites are nigh infamous for relying on the referrer header to restrict users' possibilities of using the same hosted image indefinitely, on third-party sites ("hotlinking")). Additionally, sharing the supposed personal data from foo.com with foo-cdn.net would only be problematic if they were different (legal) entities, something which we can't know from the domain names alone. In other words, there are technical as well as legal problems with this line of thinking. From a GDPR perspective, given that it is not possible for the browser to determine (a) if the referrer contains personal information or (b) if the party it is being sent to is a legal third party or not, responsibility must surely lie with the website to set the correct referrer policy. In a sense, it could be argued that this bug report is like telling the postal service to erase the "expediteur" or "sender" information from letters sent from A to B. "A" could easily send the letter without this information, and it is quite obviously up to A to do so, not up to the postal service. Similarly, this is why websites have more detailed cookie/ads "choices" in-page modal popups in the last few months. They need to ask for informed consent, and Firefox can't just block all cookies because some cookies may contain personal data. The referrer policy issue seems very similar - it may (where it involves what GDPR considers "personal data") need work on the side of the website, but the best browser can do is implementing "referrer-policy" correctly. Orthogonal to all of that, the current about:config option clearly doesn't override sites' specified policies, so in that sense it doesn't do what comment #0 asks and it's not "just" a question of exposing it in the UI. Exposing it in the UI when it doesn't do what people expect seems like a recipe for user confusion and possible liability ("I thought you weren't going to send this information!"). Both with and without the option overriding the website's policy, there is a not-unreasonable risk of web breakage, that will be hard for users to understand or link to the choice they made not to send *any* referrer information. Only very few users would be willing to live with this and/or technical enough to understand that this might be an issue, and so the best trade-off seems like it'd be to implement this in an add-on (which you could do by modifying responses from websites to add/"upgrade to" stricter referrer policies), as then you could also keep a list of exceptions and so on. As a result, I think the correct resolution is WONTFIX. Mike, can you give me a second opinion and close this bug if you agree?
I think you've made a solid case, Gijs. We might want to pass this over to someone from the Privacy and Security team in case they had anything else to add, but I agree this is starting to look like a WONTFIX.
Flags: needinfo?(mconley) → needinfo?(jhofmann)
Dear Gijs, thank you for kicking in and mention the possibility of referrer-policies at hand of website developers. I address your points in chronological order: 1) Is a visited link personal data in the sense of the GDPR Certainly are many websites not personal data. However, some may contain personal data in form of usernames etc. Note that also if the URL does not contain a username, it can be personal data. Imagine a service producing personal invitation links (for Flickr albums or Google docs) or a link shortener. If a person can be singled out because the link has been given only to one person, this link is identifying one person. If such a link is shared with e.g. 3 people, I would argue it also remains personal data as the chance to guess one out of very few remains rather high. 2) If the referrer link is personal data, who has to take measures? The data controller has to take measures. It is not evident who is the data controller. Things get more complicated when the referring website is not subject to the GDPR and the referred website is subject to the GDPR. I just deleted my reasoning as I believe this is a very complex legal question. Data controller could be the website, the browser, or the browser user. Most users do not really understand the HTTP protocol. So I find it difficult to gives them all the responsibility for their privacy. In my first report I assumed that the browser is the controller, i.e. the people offering the browser. 3) HTTP referrer is like a sender of a postcard I disagree. The sender has much transparency about what information is obviously part of the letter (envelope). One can assume explicit informed consent of the sender. The sending of the HTTP referrer is not explicit and not transparent. 3) Websites stop functioning without referrer Of course, user expectation must be managed. However, if those functionalities cannot be achieved in a law compliant manner, than they cannot be offered longer. A solution to those may become more clearer as GDPR case law emerges. Until then, I suggest to better adopt a stronger privacy setting than a weaker one. That's why people choose Firefox. Shedding attention to this issue by introducing an UI element giving control(lership) to the user is an improvement in my opinion.
I agree with Gijs about the GDPR thing. Since GDPR we've had a bunch of bugs where reporters claim that their pet peeve surely falls under GDPR and thus we must implement their proposed solution. For GDPR related issues I believe/hope our legal department is in control of the situation and I don't want to set a precedent of acting on claims of GDPR un-compliance without legal advice. With that said, giving users more control or even more sensible defaults (beyond bug 587523) on referrers might be something worth pursuing. Tanvi, do you agree (should we track this somewhere) or is this a WONTFIX for now? Also CC'ing Steve on the chance his research made him have an opinion on referrers and Luke who did the previous referrer thing.
Flags: needinfo?(jhofmann) → needinfo?(tanvi)
In Bug 1461824 I will be investigating the impact of stripping referrers from resources on the tracking protection list. Something like that may strike a balance between limiting site breakage and preserving user privacy from trackers. I think it's safe to WONTFIX this as I don't see a viable way to obtain meaningful consent for referrers headers. Even if we could, I don't think that's the approach we should take.
That sounds great, thanks Steven. Closing this one then.
Status: UNCONFIRMED → RESOLVED
Last Resolved: 5 months ago
Resolution: --- → WONTFIX
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