1486257 - "Slow loading trackers" vs. "All detected trackers" unclear

Status: RESOLVED WORKSFORME

(Firefox :: Site Identity, enhancement)

Description

[Albert Scheiner [:alberts]]

The differentiation between "Slow loading trackers" and "All detected trackers" doesn't make sense to me. 

By default "All detected trackers" was set to blocking. Logically that would include "Slow loading trackers" as they are "trackers". Why do I have the option to block them as well even though they should be blocked already? What am I missing here?

Comment 1

[Johann Hofmann [:johannh]]

It's important to note that this UI was not designed to contain two elements forever, we're already growing the number of categories that will go in there.

Bryan, Tanvi, what do you think? We've heard this feedback a couple of times now and I agree with the general idea that it's confusing with two categories, however scaling up in the future I believe that it might be more confusing to build in hidden connections between the different content blocking categories without any explanation.

Comment 2

[Tanvi Vyas[:tanvi]]

We have a reason for why we didn't make the connection - we want to ask the user 2 things 1) do you want a performance boost? 2) do you want a privacy boost?  They don't need to know the details behind that.  (one list, two lists, privacy feature has added performance boost, performance feature has some added privacy boost, etc).

I'll leave it to Bryan to respond if he wants to make any changes.

In the meantime, I am meeting with Michelle today to see if we can get the strings to more accurately portray our questions 1) and 2) above.

Comment 3

[Albert Scheiner [:alberts]]

Thanks Johan and Tanvi, just to make sure my confusion makes sense (?):  "Slow loading trackers" sounds to me like a subset of "All detected trackers".

Comment 4

[Johann Hofmann [:johannh]]

(In reply to Albert Scheiner [:alberts] from comment #3)
> Thanks Johan and Tanvi, just to make sure my confusion makes sense (?): 
> "Slow loading trackers" sounds to me like a subset of "All detected
> trackers".

Currently, using the same two lists, it is. We might decide to change the mechanism/list by which slow loading trackers are identified, though.

Tanvi, what did Michelle say? Do you think we can close this?

Comment 5

[Tanvi Vyas[:tanvi]]

Michelle made some copy changes that made it into Firefox 63.  Albert, can you take a look and see if you still believe this is an issue and we should make more improvements?

Comment 6

[Albert Scheiner [:alberts]]

(In reply to Tanvi Vyas[:tanvi] from comment #5)
> Michelle made some copy changes that made it into Firefox 63.  Albert, can
> you take a look and see if you still believe this is an issue and we should
> make more improvements?

Did you mean 64? I checked both, but only 64 has the content blocking options, but the strings are still the same for me:
- macOS 64.0a1 (2018-09-12) (64-bit) - build ID 20180912220514 => no change*
- macOS 63.0b4 (64-bit)              - build ID 20180906162647

* https://screenshots.firefox.com/FBtNpOjx2VoQ4pnT/null

Comment 7

[Albert Scheiner [:alberts]]

Johann, checking the updated UI for Content Blocking (https://mozilla.invisionapp.com/share/RHORBWDNX4W#/screens) it seems that this will not an issue any more as it only shows one "Trackers" item. We can close this task now or keep it open until the second item has been removed - if it hasn't already.

Comment 8

[Johann Hofmann [:johannh]]

Yup, I think this has resolved itself for now. Thanks!