154900 - [RFE] should new tabs appear rightmost (like mozilla)?

Status: VERIFIED FIXED

(Camino Graveyard :: General, enhancement)

Description

[sairuh (rarely reading bugmail)]

so far i'm rather used to how mozilla opens new tabs as the rightmost tab in a
multitab window --be it via "open link in new tab" (context menu), cmd+T, from
the File menu, etc.

however, with Chimera it's different, depending on how the tab is opened:

a. opening a blank tab, ie, cmd+T or File > New Tab. here, the new tab is always
the *rightmost* tab.

b. opening a link in a tab, ie, context click "open link in new tab" or
middle-clicking a link. on the other hand, this case results in the new tab
opening to the *immediate right of the current tab*.

i'd prefer the mozilla behavior...it feels more consistent --but then again,
i've gotten used to that. what *should* be the behavior for Chimera --what's the
reasoning for its current behavior?

Comment 1

[saari (gone)]

They should, but it isn't obvious as to how to convince Cocoa to do that

Comment 2

[David Haas (gone, not reading mail)]

Attachment: a fix

If you want all new tabs to be the rightmost tab, this
will fix it.

Wow - my first patch actually submitted using Chimera.
I'm so pleased.

Comment 3

[Simon Fraser [no longer active]]

It looks like hyatt carefully coded the current behaviour. What do folks think?

Comment 4

[David Haas (gone, not reading mail)]

I'll respond, since I contributed the patch:

It make no difference whatsoever to me :)

Comment 5

[Ben Medina]

I like the way it is now. Opening new tabs should open to the right of all tabs,
as the new tab has no association with any others. But opening a link in a new
(child) tab should open to the right of the current (parent) tab, as there *is*
an association between the two. This makes it clear that when the parent tab is
closed, the focus will move to the child tab.

Comment 6

[Max Horn]

This could be made a user option. Also I personally believe that to many 
pointless options hurt more than they help, setting a reasonable default is 
usually better.

I was at first confused by Chimera's behaviour, as I was used to Mozilla, 
but I got used to it pretty fast. I also agree with Ben's reasoning in 
comment 5.

Making a poll on this is rather pointless, as it will probably be a tie and no 
matter what we do we will get people that scream in outrage about our 
decision.

So I think we should either agree to add an user option for this in the 
future, or mark this item as WONTFIX.

Comment 7

[Derek Schrock]

The currrent problem with tabs is that cmd-t will add tabs to the rightmost but
cmd-click adds the tab to the right of the current tab

Example:
Open a new window goto http://mozilla.org
Now cmd-t cmd-t cmd-t you should have four tabs:
(mozilla.org)(Unititled)(Unititled)(Unititled)

Switch back to the tab (mozilla.org)
cmd-click a link

The new tab is placed to the right of the (mozilla.org) tab

Would this be considered a bug?

If so should a new report be filed or can this comment/request be part of #154900?

Comment 8

[Mike Pinkerton (not reading bugmail)]

i think one of the things we noticed from user testing is that users don't
understand why sometimes they go to the right and sometimes they go next to the
current tab. it's magic to them, they don't understand the behavior.

saari, is this correct?

Comment 9

[Simon Fraser [no longer active]]

pink: yes. I was at the usability tests, and that was one of the conclusions.

Comment 10

[Derek Schrock]

comment #8

What is the reasoning behind the current behavior?

cmd-click links load to the right of the current tab because it's considered
relevant infomation to the tab to the left?

cmd-t (new tab) are independent from all other tab's content so Chimera adds
them to the end of the list?

Comment 11

[Mike Pinkerton (not reading bugmail)]

Derek, correct, that was what hyatt was getting at.

i'll remove hyatt's hack and make everything appear at the right.

Comment 12

[Mike Pinkerton (not reading bugmail)]

landed

Comment 13

[Prachi Gauriar]

Verified my build of tree from 8/15/2002.

Comment 14

[Brant Gurganus]

[RFE] is deprecated in favor of severity: enhancement.  They have the same meaning.