1583918 - new spam is marked as read

Status: NEW

(Thunderbird :: Filters, enhancement)

Description

[scram]

User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:70.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/70.0

Steps to reproduce:

Hello

my problem is the following, with each new spam message that arrives in inbox, every time i report spam as spam, it is automatically marked as read.

it's a problem because the sender knows it. How? 'Or' What? I do not know, because I never ask to send a confirmation of reading, I found that if I leave the spam messages as unread, I finish after a certain delay to have less.

I did not specify the version because this problem is present with both daily (70) and stable version (60).

the adaptive filter is working properly, as marking spam messages are moving directly to the spam directory. the only thing that bothers me is the tagging as read new spam unknown from the filter.

Expected results:

what I would like is that the new spam that is reported manually can no longer be marked as read.

translated via google of french

Comment 1

[Jorg K (CEST = GMT+2)]

The translation is pretty good.

You can switch the "mark as read" off: In options: Security, Junk, Mark messages determined to be Junk as read.

Does that not work?

Comment 2

[scram]

this function you are describing is already disabled and working properly for messages that are filtered automatically by learning, not for messages manually processed.

If you also read the option, it says: mark the undesired detected message as read.

the message that is manually process is move to the unwanted folder and mark as read. Now, in order to detect junk, you first need to learn from thunderbird.

Do the test. mark any unread message as unwanted and see what comes out of it.

Comment 3

[scram]

ouh ouh,

what's next?

Comment 4

[scram]

UP
To date the problem is still not corrected, I would say that spam is not considered as read messages when they are marked as spam, is it possible to make this change?

Comment 5

[scram]

(In reply to tsh55860 from comment #4)

UP
To date the problem is still not corrected, I would say that spam is not considered as read messages when they are marked as spam, is it possible to make this change?

You can switch the "mark as read" off: In options: Security, Junk, Mark messages determined to be Junk as read.

Does that not work?

the option in question is already deactivated

Comment 6

[Wayne Mery (:wsmwk)]

This doesn't sound like a problem to me. What do you think?

Comment 7

[Onno Ekker [:nONoNonO UTC+1]]

Marking a message as read won't notify the sender as far as I know.

When I manually mark a message as Junk, it immediately also gets marked Read, which is what this bug is about.
This happens for me also, despite having "Mark messages determined to be junk as read" being unchecked...

Comment 8

[scram]

If the spam message was not marked as read, if at the end of the month when the messages could not be delivered because of excess quota and are returned to the sender, you should have no more spam or much less.

if by distraction one of the spam messages is marked as read, haven't you seen an increase in spam afterwards?

I see it all the time.
don't ask me how the sender knows that the message is read or delivered, I know that he knows it and pollutes one of my mailboxes

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

Comment 9

[scram]

I have been trying for over a year to stop this spam and have it recognized as such in the sorting rules.

But every time I indicate the message as spam, it is automatically indicated as read, after it is moved to the undesirable, it is other that arrives afterwards. it is systematic
the vicious circle is installed.

the only way i can stop it is to fill my mailbox to its maximum capacity for at least 1 month. as this spam can't be delivered, it is automatically returned to the sender with the message: could not be delivered due to excess quota.

Comment 10

[Wayne Mery (:wsmwk)]

Confirmed.

Is it possible the last changed was Bug 306026 - Manual marking a message as junk marks the message as read as well ?
From Bug 306026 - Manual marking a message as junk marks the message as read as well.