tiny fonts in UI in 1.1 (and ugly default fonts)



UI Design
16 years ago
9 years ago


(Reporter: Istvan Toth, Assigned: Samir Gehani)


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16 years ago
From Bugzilla Helper:
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.1b) Gecko/20020722
BuildID:    2002072204

After upgrading form 1.0 ot 1.1b the font in the mozilla menus and UI bacame at
least 2 points smaller, hardly readable on my screen. The fonts in the web page
are fine.

I've tried delelting the .mozilla directory, but it did not help.
The same symptom with both classic and modern skins.

My distro is standard RedHat 7.3., only I set the display resolution to the real
screen dpi in X.

Reproducible: Always
Steps to Reproduce:
1.Install 1.1b
2.start it

Actual Results:  I get tiny fonts in all the menus of mozilla

Expected Results:  I expect the bigger fonts I had in 1.0

I'm filing it as major, as it is VERY visible and annoying, and I've found no
obvious way to change the UI font.

Comment 1

16 years ago
Can you attach a screenshot?
Also: Which is the real screen dpi you set in preferences?

WFM. I don't see anything unusual regarding the fonts on a CVS build, RH7.3 (++)
Summary: tinly fonts in UI in 1.1b → tiny fonts in UI in 1.1b

Comment 2

16 years ago
Created attachment 94944 [details]
The right size menus with mozilla 0.99

The screenshot taken from the default redhat shipped 0.99 with the default rh

Comment 3

16 years ago
Created attachment 94945 [details]
The small fonts with 1.1b

The small fonts in 1.1b

Comment 4

16 years ago
The above screenshots were both taken when logged in as root. They were started
from the same shell.

I will try a recent build soon, and test with it.

from xpdyinfo:

screen #0:
  dimensions:    1280x1024 pixels (332x250 millimeters)
  resolution:    98x104 dots per inch


Comment 5

16 years ago
In preferences i have: display resolution: system setting

Comment 6

16 years ago
I've tested with the latest 1.1 build: 2002081013, and got the same results.

Comment 7

16 years ago
I've tested with 1.1 ,and got the same results.
Summary: tiny fonts in UI in 1.1b → tiny fonts in UI in 1.1
Is this a dup of bug 162152? (This one is reported earlier, but bug 162152 has
more info)

Comment 9

16 years ago
No, my problem is not with the web content, but withe UI of Mozilla itself, and
setting the resolution to 72 or 96 dpi in the preferences has no effect.

Comment 10

16 years ago
I did some experimenting, and now have some answers:

I added 

 * {
   font-size: 10pt;
   font-family: helvetica 

to userChrome.css, and I got the pre-1.0 good-looking UI.

1. : The UI font size size only reacts to the dpi setting if I add it in
This may be because by default it is given in pixels instead of points, though I
did not find it in the chrome .jar files. This may be considered a bug or a
feature, I think it'd be better if it WAS dependent on dpi by default.

2. The default font mozilla chooses for UI on my system is the ugly
half-condensed, scaled-looking horror that you can see on the screenshots. I
could not find out how mozilla decides the default UI font to use, but something
DEFINITELY should be done about it, especially because the pre-1.0 default fonts
were good-looking.
Summary: tiny fonts in UI in 1.1 → tiny fonts in UI in 1.1 (and ugly default fonts)

Comment 11

15 years ago
Bug 206975 & bug 206975 are similar.

Changing DPI in Mozilla prefs, and changes made to userChrome.css, only take
effect on full Mozilla restart. At 1280x1024 you'll probably find a DPI of 120
or 144 will help. 8pt or 9pt for chrome should be an adequate size if DPI is
suitably set.

Comment 12

15 years ago
Reporter can you reproduce this bug with a newer build (1.4 final)?
If not, then please close this bug as worksforme. Thanks.

Comment 13

15 years ago
*** Bug 165246 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 14

15 years ago
I have tested on Redhat 9.0 with Mozilla 1.4, and I do not have the described
problems any more. Actually, I think I haven't had this problem since about 1.2
or 1.3. (with the then-current RedHat release) 

I do not remember if the problem went away due to a RedHat upgrade, or a Mozilla

However some user-visible way of changing the UI fonts (size, style, etc )
through preferences would still be nice (but that's another issue)

Last Resolved: 15 years ago
Resolution: --- → WORKSFORME
Product: Core → Mozilla Application Suite


9 years ago
Duplicate of this bug: 201875


9 years ago
No longer blocks: 201875
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