Closed Bug 1703359 Opened 3 years ago Closed 3 years ago

Update SeaMonkey website support options.

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(SeaMonkey :: Website, task)

Product:
SeaMonkey
Component:
Website
Version:
Production
Type:
task
Priority:
Not set
Severity:
normal

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(Not tracked)

Status:
RESOLVED FIXED

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(Reporter: frg, Assigned: frg)

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1703359-newsserver-v1_2-prod.patch
13.26 KB, patch
iannbugzilla
: review+
Details | Diff | Splinter Review

the mozilla nntp groups and mailing lists are going away.

Attached patch 1703359-newsserver-prod.patch (obsolete) — — Splinter Review

Feel free to change and/or expand it.

Everyone else: Changes welcome too.

Attachment #9213911 - Flags: feedback?(iann_bugzilla)
Comment on attachment 9213911 [details] [diff] [review]
1703359-newsserver-prod.patch


>-The main channel of community activity within the SeaMonkey project are the
>-newsgroups hosted at mozilla.org, each of which are mirrored as mailing lists.
>-<br>Please read the <a href="http://www.mozilla.org/community/developer-forums.html">mozilla.org
>-developer forums page</a> for more info about those groups / lists. This page
>-also lists lots of similar forums for other mozilla.org projects as well as
>+The main channel of community activity within the SeaMonkey project is the
>+newsgroup alt.comp.software.seamonkey and the SeaMonkey forums at mozillaZine.
>+<br>This page also lists lots of similar forums for mozilla.org projects as well as
> technical topics related to Mozilla technology.
> </p>
>-
>-<p>Please read the <a href="http://www.mozilla.org/community/etiquette.html">Mozilla forum
>-etiquette</a> document for posting rules and conventions.</p>
We probably still need some sort of link to etiquette.

>-
> <dl>
>+  <dt id="support-comp-seamonkey">alt.comp.software.seamonkey</dt>
>+  <dd>
>+    <p>
>+    End-user and developer support, ask user questions about SeaMonkey here.
>+    </p>
>+    <ul class="subscribe">
>+      <li>Newsgroup: <a href="news://news.aioe.org/alt.comp.software.seamonkey">
>+        alt.comp.software.seamonkey</a></li>
>+    </ul>
>+  </dd>
Maybe just mention the newsgroup and say one option is to subscribe via news.aioe.org if not available from their usual news server?
Do we also need to mention netscape.public.mozilla.seamonkey?
Same for news article...

>   <dt id="support-seamonkey">mozilla.support.seamonkey</dt>
>   <dd>
>     <p>
>     End-user support, ask user questions about SeaMonkey here.
>     </p>
>     <ul class="subscribe">
>       <li>Newsgroup: <a href="news://news.mozilla.org/mozilla.support.seamonkey">mozilla.support.seamonkey</a></li>
>-      <li>Mailing List: support&#45;seamonkey&#64;lists&#46;mozilla.org
>-        <a href="https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey">subscribe/unsubscribe</a></li>
>       <li>Google Groups: <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey">view topics</a></li>
>     </ul>
>   </dd>
This should be replaced completely:
  - Mailing List: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
    - Subscribed by emailing: support-seamonkey+subscribe@lists.mozilla.org
  - Web: https://groups.google.com/a/lists.mozilla.org/g/support-seamonkey/

Archive of old Google Group is:
  - Web: https://groups.google.com/g/mozilla.support.seamonkey/

>   <dt id="dev-apps-seamonkey">mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey</dt>
>   <dd>
>     <p>
>     This forum is for code questions, project management and development
>     discussion within the SeaMonkey project.
>     </p>
>     <ul class="subscribe">
>       <li>Newsgroup: <a href="news://news.mozilla.org/mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey">mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey</a></li>
>-      <li>Mailing List: dev-apps&#45;seamonkey&#64;lists&#46;mozilla.org
>-        <a href="https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-apps-seamonkey">subscribe/unsubscribe</a></li>
>       <li>Google Groups: <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey">view topics</a></li>
>     </ul>
>   </dd>
> </dl>
This should be replaced completely:
  - Mailing List: dev-apps-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
    - Subscribed by emailing: dev-apps-seamonkey+subscribe@lists.mozilla.org
  - Web: https://groups.google.com/a/lists.mozilla.org/g/dev-apps-seamonkey/

Archive of old Google Group is:
  - Web: https://groups.google.com/g/mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey/

Good work so far, but f- for the moment, as I want to see the next version.
Attachment #9213911 - Flags: feedback?(iann_bugzilla) → feedback-

We probably still need some sort of link to etiquette.

Linked to old netiquette for us "old timers"

Maybe just mention the newsgroup and say one option is to subscribe via news.aioe.org
Left the link in so that people can subscirbe fast. I think not many are using a dedicated nntp provider any longer.

Cleaned up the links and news / mailing lists. Removed defunct plant mozilla Formatting is ok with just viewing the html but might be fancy-fied after checkin.

Removed planet mozilla but can re-add.

Attachment #9213911 - Attachment is obsolete: true
Attachment #9221024 - Flags: feedback?(iann_bugzilla)

Comment on attachment 9221024 [details] [diff] [review]
1703359-newsserver-v1_1-prod.patch

fwiw.. there's little point in re-adding Planet so +1 on removal.

Attachment #9221024 - Flags: feedback+

The first paragraph under Newsgroups / Mailing Lists now also mentions webforums and IRC, should it be before the <h2>? Perhaps as the second paragraph in the page?

(And should it be "The main channels ... are the ..." instead of "The main channel ... is the ..."?)

Suggested changes from njsg included and a typo fix.

Forgot "Do we also need to mention netscape.public.mozilla.seamonkey?"
I don't think so. Let it be rest in peace. Would be different without the new alt.comp group but so a bit too much going back in time for my taste.

Attachment #9221024 - Attachment is obsolete: true
Attachment #9221024 - Flags: feedback?(iann_bugzilla)
Attachment #9221114 - Flags: feedback?(iann_bugzilla)
Comment on attachment 9221114 [details] [diff] [review]
1703359-newsserver-v1_1a-prod.patch

Looking good, just a few nits.

>+++ b/src/community.en.html

>+  <dt id="dev-apps-seamonkey">Mailing List:
>+    dev-apps-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org</dt>
>   <dd>
>     <p>
>-    This forum is for code questions, project management and development
>-    discussion within the SeaMonkey project.
>+    The previous mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey newsgroup has been replaced with
>+    this mailing list for more technical discussions. You can as questions
Typo: should be "ask".
>+    about code, project management and development here.

>+++ b/src/news.en.xml

>+Hi folks hope you are all well and healthy. We want to announce a change in our
>+support groups. Mozilla will turn off the nntp lights and so the newgroups
>+mozilla.support.seamonkey and mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey will go away soon.
>+These where actually not real nntp groups but mailing lists mixed in with
Typo: should be "were" not "where".

>+nntp. The mailing lists were already moved to google groups. The nntp servers
Maybe "have been" instead of "were" here.

>+will be archived and then go out of order. We do not have a final date here
Maybe "be switched off" or "be taken offline" rather than "go out of order"
Attachment #9221114 - Flags: feedback?(iann_bugzilla) → feedback+

Typos fixed nits addressed. Front news section a bit expanded to cover website compatibility.

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Attachment #9222066 - Flags: review?(iann_bugzilla)

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1703359-newsserver-v1_2-prod.patch

Just need a proper date for the news article. r=me

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